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02-12-2006 02:56 PM  12 years agoPost 1
andres.c

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I need some help from the experience pilots with g3

can someone record these manuevers for g3 so I can see them and practice them properly

please pm me if these are availble on a CD in zip format that will work with G3

5D.2 SCHEDULE A
A1. DIAMOND - UPWIND/UPWIND
A2. INVERTED TRIANGLE – UPWIND/UPWIND
A3. HOVERING “M” - UPWIND/UPWIND
A4. ROLL REVERSAL – DOWNWIND/DOWNWIND
A5. DOUBLE ROLLING STALL TURN - UPWIND/UPWIND
A6. COBRA ROLL WITH HALF ROLLS – DOWNWIND/DOWNWIND
A7. FLIPPING PULLBACK - UPWIND/UPWIND
A8. CUBAN EIGHT - DOWNWIND/DOWNWIND
A9. PUSH OVER WITH 360º PIROUETTE - UPWIND/UPWIND
A10. AUTOROTATION WITH 180º TURN - DOWNWIND/UPWIND

5D.3 SCHEDULE B
B1. HOURGLASS 1 – UPWIND/UPWIND
B2. CIRCLE WITH TWO 360º PIROUETTES – UPWIND/UPWIND
B3. RECTANGLE WITH 180º PIROUETTES - UPWIND/UPWIND
B4. HORIZONTAL EIGHT - DOWNWIND/DOWNWIND
B5. FIGURE M WITH 180º STALL TURNS - UPWIND/UPWIND

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02-13-2006 09:10 AM  12 years agoPost 2
ppp0

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I'm interested too

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02-13-2006 09:19 AM  12 years agoPost 3
nivlek

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It would be nice to have the individual manouvers included in the Virtual flight Instructor .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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02-13-2006 11:34 PM  12 years agoPost 4
bigwahoo

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Recording
Another interested person here.

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02-14-2006 03:30 AM  12 years agoPost 5
Ace Dude

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I'd be interested as well as I have G3.

However, I'm wondering if a DVD would be even better since more people can watch. Perhaps there's a way to take the G3 recordings and render them to DVD? Hmmm, something to investiage....

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02-14-2006 03:42 AM  12 years agoPost 6
andres.c

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yes it can be done with fraps but firs a fai f3c pilot is needed to fly them and record them

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02-14-2006 04:09 AM  12 years agoPost 7
bobbyhill4x4

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Good Luck, this has been post many times without response.

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02-14-2006 05:15 AM  12 years agoPost 8
Ace Dude

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Gordie, are you listening?

Another option perhaps would be to record the upcoming Nats. Edit it, and turn it into an instructional manouver DVD? Then you can see real pilots performing the real manouvers.

I wouldn't mind seeing IRCHA fund something like this.

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02-14-2006 09:32 AM  12 years agoPost 9
Spacey

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I think it takes a lot of commitment to actually practise the schedule on a simulator IMHO as it's near impossible to know your location through the manuvers. I practise the schedule on AFPD just about every single day and it's truly frustrating as you think you're in one place during the flight manuvers whilst in the meantime you're way off. This is worst during manuvers like the flipping pullback where the horizon sometimes goes out of view. Also during the hovering you tend to lose sight of the horizon on the upper parts and determining your excact position can be really tricky if not impossible. And well that brings us back to the reality of the matter that positioning during F3C is everything! I don't know if G3 is any better at this but I doubt it. I wish I could help and if I had hosting space I would have made some recordings of certain manuvers but in the end I think just describing the manuvers in words might even be easier.

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02-14-2006 02:11 PM  12 years agoPost 10
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G3
The primary problem I have with this is that I don't own G3 or G2 or even G1 for that matter. I have an old CSM v10 that I use to learn some new 3D stuff over the Christmas holidays but that's about all I ever do with it.
I tried using a sim for FAI practice but the field of view and perspective just weren't good enough for it to be doable, at least for me. I was always hunting for the shadow to tell where I was instead of watching the model. Maybe the new versions are better than they were and it now would be helpful.
Gordie

On a dog sled team, if you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.

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02-14-2006 02:35 PM  12 years agoPost 11
nivlek

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I don't know if G3 is any better at this but I doubt it.
Actually G3 is much better for that because the ground , and therefore the helis position , can be kept in view at all times .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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02-14-2006 10:53 PM  12 years agoPost 12
Ace Dude

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Gordie, perhaps we can approach RealFlight about providing a donation and/or loaner? I don't mind approaching them. An FAI field for G3 would be nice as well.

What do you think of the DVD idea? Peter Wales/Len Mount did one for Scale that was distributed with MHT (I just got around to watching it this past weekend). Perhaps if people see what it's all about it might spark some interest. Especially if someone can actually see first hand the manouvers being performed.

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02-15-2006 02:26 AM  12 years agoPost 13
bigwahoo

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Offer
If any of the qualified FAI guys make it over to the Daytona Beach/New Smyrna Beach area (about an hour away from Cliff), they are more than welcome to use my G3 for recording purposes. Its going through a hi-res DLP projector onto an 80 inch home theater screen which somewhat helps with realism and orientation.

I've also got Reflex and the ability to record this which would need a dub over for the voice.

PM me if interested.

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02-15-2006 10:13 AM  12 years agoPost 14
Spacey

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nivlek: That'll help alot for sure. Are you still able to keep good orientation even when you reach the say +/-7 meter high mark during the hovering?

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02-15-2006 10:36 AM  12 years agoPost 15
nivlek

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Spacey , yes absolutely .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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02-16-2006 12:16 AM  12 years agoPost 16
rubaga

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The real issue with DVD are sticks. When you record in G3 stick movements are also recorded which helps in my view with learning maneuvers. In DVD this will not possible to see.

Just my 2 cents.

Ruben

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02-16-2006 03:10 AM  12 years agoPost 17
Ace Dude

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The stick movements would certainly be helpful, but I think most folks would find it helpful to just see the manouvers being performed.

Of course, it can always be performed using multiple camers, as done in the Szabo video, and you can see both the manouver and the stick movements at the same time.

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09-22-2006 12:38 PM  11 years agoPost 18
Nasscar][

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I would also be interested in a G3 recording.

If anyone has one created already or if you have G3 just record one, voice comments during the recording are welcomed.


Nas,

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