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02-12-2006 01:40 AM  12 years agoPost 1
chopefly

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I would like to purchase a helicopter but don't know what to buy. I have flown RC planes, park models, and gas powered. I also have experience with RC nitro cars. I visited my hobby shop today and got some good info. I need some help on choosing a model. Gas vs electric and the size? As I see the draw backs to electric is the run time. 10 -12 min run time is so not appealing to me, as with RC planes. The dealer showed my a Blade make. It seemed more like a Radio Shack toy to me. My concern is I don't want something I will outgrow too soon but as with RC planes it takes experience before flying the more expensive models. Can anyone suggest a gas and electric model for a beginner? Is there any way of getting around the 10-12 min run time with the electric? I do realize I can purchase more batteries. Actually the only thing I have decided on is I probably need to go with a park model at this time.

Thank you...

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02-12-2006 01:52 AM  12 years agoPost 2
TAZZY

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the raptor 50 is a very popoular model. but the 30 gets more runtime, but you will also grow out of it pretty quick. get a 50.
the reason no one else has responded to this post is because there are soo many othger posts out there with the same topic that you could find with a simple search.

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02-12-2006 02:25 AM  12 years agoPost 3
UCGC

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Started with the Raptor 50 here. Great machine. It helps a lot that the people at my field fly Raptors and REALLYYYYYYYYY helped me with my set up. Assistance from experienced pilots is priceless. I would go for the 50 (which ever make you choose). I now have a EVO90 that I wouldn't trade for the world, and I'm sure the EVO 50 is a great heli, but for me the Raptor got me going and understanding everything because I had so much help. Right now, I wouldn't part with either of my heli's. Both have a purpose and both put a smile on my face. Good luck...you'll be addicted in no time.

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02-12-2006 03:22 AM  12 years agoPost 4
chopefly

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Thank you for the help and suggestions... The guy at the hobby shop recommended I look check out this site for help. I will make sure I do a search before asking other questions.

Thank You!!!

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02-12-2006 04:17 AM  12 years agoPost 5
Slowpoke

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Chopefly,

The Raptor is a good learning machine. If you started with 50 you wouldn't outgrow it. Many very experienced pilots are flying 50s because they have a great power to weight ratio, and they cost a good deal less to fly, fix and maintain. I think one of the main considerations in choosing your first heli is what a lot of the people who will be helping you get started are familiar with, and also what parts your local hobby shops keep in stock.
Good luck!!

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02-12-2006 04:42 AM  12 years agoPost 6
BC Don

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Depends partially upon how much you want to spend. The least expensive setup I've seen is a setup from Century (the Hawk Pro). It is a 30 size bird which can take you into mild 3D.

Got Money? Send it to me, I'm a Heli Addict.

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02-12-2006 08:07 AM  12 years agoPost 7
chopefly

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One final question, I don't know anyone who flies helicopters. I do have some general hobby knowledge. Will I be able to set up and fly the Raptor 50 by myself? What about the run time? If the run time is approx 12 min and the charge time is two hours how does one stay interested in the hobby? Even with two or three batteries and being only able to charge one at a time it seems to be limited?

Thanks... this is a great site for info

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02-12-2006 12:39 PM  12 years agoPost 8
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Get yourself a decent sim and Raptor 50. Build it and read loads along the way. Fiddle with it and understand it while practicing on the sim. You will know when your ready to fly.
OSX50 gives about 15 minutes per tank. 50 Hyper is about 10 minutes depending on your setup. When you are starting out, 10 minutes is plenty long enough and the refueling breaks are good for a quick breather.
Nitro is probably easier (& safer) to start with than electric. Plus you can do back to back flights without buggering around with charging etc.

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02-12-2006 01:04 PM  12 years agoPost 9
TAZZY

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Will I be able to set up and fly the Raptor 50 by myself? What about the run time? If the run time is approx 12 min and the charge time is two hours how does one stay interested in the hobby?
first of all, a simulator is a great idea. if your going to try and tackle a heli without any help i would highly recommend a good simulator before you fly the real thing.
i would also recommend seeking help from your local hobby shop, as long as they know what they are talking about.
about the runtime, when your first learning, 12mins is plenty of time, these things really get your heart beating.
Charging: one charge usually lasts 4-5 flights and with a descent field charger, charge time is only about 20 min. depending on your battery size.
how does one stay interested in the hobby
trust me, once your in, your addicted. some say it's worse than cocaine.

GDay

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02-12-2006 01:20 PM  12 years agoPost 10
cwright

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Just went to pilotlocator.net and there is some pilots listed for Oregon. Just click on your state and it will come up with a list of pilots and their location. See if one is close to where you are. Good luck and welcome aboard. Chuck

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02-12-2006 01:58 PM  12 years agoPost 11
pH7

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If you get a Raptor, then the excellent resource is: http://www.raptortechnique.com/

This site will help you do everything right. Even with that, I HIGHLY recommend having an experienced heli pilot check it over and do the first flight. Then you will be sure that any flying problems are yours and not the heli's.


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Will I be able to set up and fly the Raptor 50 by myself? What about the run time? If the run time is approx 12 min and the charge time is two hours how does one stay interested in the hobby?
It sounds like you may be confused about one thing - a Raptor 50 is a nitro powered machine, not electric. If your nerves can take it (they can't) you could be back in the air with only a minute or two between flights to refuel.

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02-12-2006 03:12 PM  12 years agoPost 12
TAZZY

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you could also try http://www.modelaircraft.org/clubsearch.aspx

for locating a club near you.

GDay

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02-14-2006 02:12 AM  12 years agoPost 13
chopefly

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I really appreciate all the help I have received. I will check out the websites listed. I was confused about whether or not the heli was a nitro or electric. Will I need to join a club or can I fly this heli in a park or school field? What about a transmitter, any suggestions? The hobby shop wanted to sell me the top line JR Products transmitter. It selects the channel so no more confusion or pin boards. Is this transmitter recomended for a beginner?

Thank you,
Chris

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02-14-2006 11:35 AM  12 years agoPost 14
TAZZY

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i wouldn't even think about flying it near a school, being that your a beginner, that is waayyyy tooo dangerous. i would seriously consider joining a club and getting to know some people that can guide you in the right direction and help you get started.
in regards to the transmitter, as long as you plan on persuing this hobby down the road more and plan on taking an interest in it, and most likely buying a few more helis, starting off with something that advanced and expensive is probably not a bad idea. but if your unsure then you might want to consider a cheaper style, but hey, if you got the money, go for it.
also, you will have to become a member of AMA, for insurance purposes. and most clubs require that you be a member of AMA in order to join the club.
don't let anything hold you back, this hobby is sooo much fun, and if you don't have anyone around you that knows anything about helis, then just post the question here on RR.
once you make the first step, there's no turning back.
www.modelaircraft.org

GDay

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02-14-2006 09:25 PM  12 years agoPost 15
pH7

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chopefly said:
The hobby shop wanted to sell me the top line JR Products transmitter. It selects the channel so no more confusion or pin boards.
Not needing to specify the channel and not needing a pin board is a property of 2.4GHz spread spectrum technology. The only product on the market today (2/14/06) that I am aware of is the Spektrum DX6. Although JR does make the case and part of the electronics, it is not a JR brand product. Also, it would not be described as "top of the line" unless you go on the technicality of it is the only one.

I would question their description to you. The DX6 sells for about $200. A high end JR would cost a lot more. If you can get a model number, we can fill you in on the capabilities.

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02-14-2006 09:32 PM  12 years agoPost 16
cwright

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Although the DX6 is a new radio like stated above it is not the top of the line. They should be coming out with a spectrum module for the transmitters we now use later sometime, at least that is what I heard. The DX6 is made for park fliers. THe radio range is stated as being 1500 feet, which is not enough for the Raptor 50. Also you would need to replace the servos as well as like I said they are designed for the park flies and are micro in size with very little torgue. Also you will need to by an inflight battery pack as this radio usually is used in the park fliers and small helis where the electronic speed controller powers the receiver. Chuck

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02-14-2006 10:14 PM  12 years agoPost 17
TAZZY

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what i believe he ment, is the the module in the transmitter is a synthesized module, this allows you to chose the channel you want, and the flight pack it comes with, probably includes the synthesized reciever as well, wich would allow you to be on any channel you want and be able to change both transmitter and reciever frequencys, but, this would not get rid of any
confusion or pin boards
problems, as you will still have to use the pin which declares the freqency you are using, but you have a wide range of choices instead of bein stuck with just one, incase someone else is on that same freqency.
chopefly, this may sound a bit confusing, but just go with it, personally, i think the FUTABA brand transmitters are a little easier to program and manage, but go with whatever your hobby store knows most about.

GDay

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