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02-10-2006 09:12 PM  12 years agoPost 1
jackheli

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Hi,

I fly mainly 3D but I am on my first scale project.

I was wondering if I should set hovering at 1/2 or 3/4 on my scaler. To me it maked more sense to hover at 1/2 so I have an extra point in my curves to flatten the region close to hover.

What do you guys do? Is it a problem to fly 3D @ 3/4 and scale @ 1/2?

Thanks.

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02-11-2006 12:46 AM  12 years agoPost 2
Max_Power

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I fly both and run identical setups. I'm no hard core 3d'er, but do execute plenty of manuvers that need a 3d setup. I have been known to do a roll or loop with my Hawk mech Agusta 109, and even hovered it inverted a few times, although mostly I just like to do FFF and "quick stop" approches with it(stall turns are fun too, and easier in my opinion in idle up with mid-stick being 0 pitch). I guess to me I just like knowing that all 3 of my helis are set the same when I need to do a save. Also when doing fast descents in "normal" with no governor I found that the scalers weight made it much more trouble to stop the descent if you had gone below your "flight rpm" stick point...so I fly it in idle up just like my other helis. Even if you don't intend to be in odd orientations on a scaler....It happens...I'd rather be able to check the idle up switch and pull out inverted than crash in a "scale-like manner". Of course I'm flying a cheapie Hawk scaler thats cheaper to rebuild than most higher end pod and booms, but to tell the truth after having it I think its the way to go...I'd rather have something that looks pretty cool and I'm not afraid to fly like I want to than a super scaler that I'm only comfortable to hover or look at in my den.

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02-11-2006 12:53 AM  12 years agoPost 3
jackheli

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Thanks Max_Power, guess I'll have to re-think my opinion. You got me thinking...

Pictures or videos of you doing some 3D with the scaler hawk would be awesome!

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02-11-2006 01:07 AM  12 years agoPost 4
SteveH

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Jack,

I do both also, and it depends on the scaler which way I set it up. I have a Schweizer 300 converted from a Falcon and it is set up 3/4 stick because I do some aerobatics with it also. However, I'm building a Jet Ranger that will not be set up for aerobatics and so will have a 1/2 stick hover. I still feel for precision hovering a 1/2 stick set up is better.

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02-11-2006 01:39 AM  12 years agoPost 5
Max_Power

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I think Steve has a good point about which scaler it is and what you plan to do with it....I find my hawk scaler will do about anything that my hawk pro will, with the exceptoion being manuvers that prey on the "weathervaning" weakness of the scaler, and that it takes about 1900 on my scalers head to do what my pro will do at 1750 or 1800. If I had a vario,etc It would probably be a hover and FF only bird...Although I havent tried it I was actually thinking of adding a little "sideways-s" curve to my idle up pitch curve to give me the best of both...insensitve hovering stick area in the middle while still having 9 or 10 degrees at each end for emergencies/acro....Todd

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02-11-2006 05:58 AM  12 years agoPost 6
jackheli

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It is an Agusta 30 based on a Falcon 46. Not sure yet if I want to do crazy stuff with it.

In it's pod-and-boom format I was doing 3D no problem. Even with the 560 semis, paddle weights and shortened boom I managed to get it rocking.

I'll have to think this over a bit before I wrap it up.

Thanks guys...

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