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02-10-2006 07:49 PM  12 years agoPost 1
Dusty

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Hey all.

Here is a picture of my new metal head block.
http://www.ercha.ca/usergallery/ERC...alore!/Dcp_0002

All of a sudden, I have binding where the red circles.

Haven't flown it yet.

Thoughts?

Thanks guys.
Shawn

Canada Shawn

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02-10-2006 07:54 PM  12 years agoPost 2
TAZZY

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are the arms on backwards???

GDay

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02-10-2006 09:06 PM  12 years agoPost 3
Salty

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It looks like your flybar arms are on bass ackwards to me. I havent messed with stock parts in awhile but I seem to remember the arm goes on the short side of the mixers

Ask your Doctor if getting off your ass is right for you.

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02-10-2006 09:32 PM  12 years agoPost 4
BarracudaHockey

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Which one of these kids is doing thier own thing.....

http://www.raptortechnique.com/manu...0-50_page16.htm

Take it apart and start over.

Andy
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02-10-2006 09:46 PM  12 years agoPost 5
IFHELI

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Dusty,

Did you install the seesaw arms on the inner hole or the outer hole on seesaw? I believe if they are installed useing the inner hole they will hit stock plastic flybar arms. To me looking at pic the arms are mounted towards head rather than out at edge of seesaw.

Keith

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02-10-2006 11:07 PM  12 years agoPost 6
BarracudaHockey

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Once again, the mixing levers AND the fly bar control arms are installed backwards.

Andy
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02-10-2006 11:18 PM  12 years agoPost 7
IFHELI

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Barracudohockey,

From his picture it appears he is working on a 60 or 90 Rap which has leading grips. The link you gave is for a Rap 30-50 which has trailing grips. I may be wrong but looking at his pic you can see gun metal skids instead of silver color skids.

Keith

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02-10-2006 11:24 PM  12 years agoPost 8
A. Bundy

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60 ,you can see a sideframe and the canopy supports up front.

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02-10-2006 11:32 PM  12 years agoPost 9
IFHELI

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Hello A. Bundy,

I thought a Rap 60 also till I looked at his other pics which are of a rap 90. It is true those pics may not be the same but bird.

Keith

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02-10-2006 11:51 PM  12 years agoPost 10
Dusty

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Sorry everyone...

Yes, I'm working with a Raptor 90.
Putting the metal head block on.

I'm using the inside hole on the seesaw.
I've already done the mod (shorten the arm, shave step and redrill hole)

Flew with it that way all last year with plastic stock head block. Well... three actually (crashes)

Anyway... there was no rubbing when it was on the stock head block, but now there is.

Another thing I found. There is a little play side to side with the seesaw on the inside of the metal head block.

I've gotten rid of the side to side play by shimming the bolts out just a tiny bit.

I still have the origional issue tho...

Thanks guys!

Shawn

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02-11-2006 12:01 AM  12 years agoPost 11
IFHELI

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Hello Dusty,

You could add a few washers between the flybar arms and seesaw. this would move the arms out some but then may not let set screw tighten on flat spot on flybar. I have not tried this but I have read of it being done.
I have a new Rap90Se with 9 flights but all arms are in stock location.

Keith

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02-11-2006 12:05 AM  12 years agoPost 12
IFHELI

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Forgot to add ... You would also have to add a few washers under ball and use longer screw in flybar arm. That is if you does this type of fix.

Keith

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02-11-2006 12:10 AM  12 years agoPost 13
Dusty

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Already tried the washers between the arms and seesaw.

Will try the washers on the ball screws now.

Thanks
Shawn

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02-11-2006 12:16 AM  12 years agoPost 14
Dusty

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Nope... won't work.

When you do this MOD - it's recommended that you through bold the ball on and use a nut on the other side to make sure nothing comes loose.

It's actually the nut that is rubbing.

I tried putting another washer between the arm and flybar seesaw, but really, how many can you put in before it gets so far out of wack that it won't fly right anyway?

Let's find out! LOL

Thanks all
Shawn

p.s. If anyone can think of anything else, let me know.
I'll keep checking back.

Canada Shawn

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02-11-2006 12:41 AM  12 years agoPost 15
IFHELI

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Dusty,

Not sure if you understanding what I said.... You need to add washers on flybar between seesaw and L - shape arms to move them out some on flybar. Then add washers under ball on L - shape arms to line it back up over head to fit oval links.
If you can`t get it to work with plastic flybar control arms, I know it will work with the metal arms PV-0396 with a mod to them.

I hate trying to explains thing without talking in person.

Keith

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02-11-2006 12:57 AM  12 years agoPost 16
BarracudaHockey

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Oh dang sorry. I'll shaddup now.

Andy
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02-11-2006 02:01 AM  12 years agoPost 17
Dusty

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AHhhh...

Gotcha now.

I'll try that.

I may end up having to shave just a tiny bit off the flybar control arms as well though, cause I think it will still be binding just a touch after I do this.

I'll let ya's know.

Shawn

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02-11-2006 02:11 AM  12 years agoPost 18
IFHELI

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Hopefully if you have to trim / shave the inside of arms to clear it won`t be much. It may be possible to shave a recess in seesaw arms for nut to help clear. If you become worried about it , just buy the metal arms. Would be much easier to mod.

Keith

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02-11-2006 03:00 AM  12 years agoPost 19
Dusty

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Success!

Thanks guys!

Here's the cure.

I had to put two washers between the flybar arms and the seesaw.
I then had to put a washer and nut to extend the ball outward so the hoops would line up again.

I did have to also shave the arms just a tiny bit. Don't think I took off more than about a milimeter of material.

Turned on the transmitter and the heli, gave it full negative on the left stick, pushed the right stick to the top right corner and spund the blades (by hand) and the flybar stayed smooth as silk!
WOOoo HOoo!

Thangs for the suggestions guys! Now I can try it out tomorrow.

Shawn

Oh, by the way. This is a Standard Rappy 90.
The one on order is the SE. Shouldn't have these problems with that one.

Canada Shawn

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02-12-2006 03:30 AM  12 years agoPost 20
Dusty

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Strangely enough, up here in Canada, we had some VERY nice weather today, so I got to take this beast out for a serious ring out!

All the stuff done to this puppy yesterday worked like a charm today!
She's rocking now!

Thanks everyone, for all your help!

Shawn

Canada Shawn

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