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02-10-2006 03:25 AM  12 years agoPost 1
300wby

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Columbia City, Indiana

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Just found out yesterday the Army wont take me. 10 years ago I got caught carrying a handgun without a permit, never pulled it or anything, never threatened anyone, just had it. The Army says they wont take someone who has been arrested for a felony, I have never had a felony conviction, does not matter. How stupid is it that they are hurting for people and want someone who isnt afraid of firing a gun, but wont take one who obviously likes guns? I havent even had a speeding ticket since then. The big "Damn" is: I have already taken the asvab and passed 51, physical and passed, and it only took 3 1/2 months to find out they dont want me. The good news is the Navy bases it on conviction and not arrest. I have to go talk to them Saturday to see if they will let me play with helicopters.

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02-10-2006 03:31 AM  12 years agoPost 2
orlee008

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Miami, FL USA

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get a lawer and expunge (clean) your record.

Flying in Miami, FL (Kendall Area)

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02-10-2006 03:33 AM  12 years agoPost 3
300wby

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Columbia City, Indiana

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If they dont want me because I like guns, I am not sure I want in?

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02-10-2006 04:08 AM  12 years agoPost 4
Flyinrazrback

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Fort Smith, AR

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Do you really want to join the Army and go to Iraq for a year at a time? Probably do that 2-3 times?

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02-10-2006 01:38 PM  12 years agoPost 5
Flyinrazrback

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Fort Smith, AR

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I dont have a problem with whatever he does, just needs to know what he is getting into, and if he is married or has a g/f, a lot of folks who are, are not lasting all these year long deployments (some guys on their 3rd year long deployment). I am in the AF but work on an Army post (largest US post) and see the effects of these deployments every single day.

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02-10-2006 01:57 PM  12 years agoPost 6
Grant H

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Madison, WI

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Well. Having spent 4 years in the Navy, I gotta say man.. SCREW the Army!!!

I got a buddy. Networking Professional, has all Microsoft and Cisco certifications. Owns his own business. Spend like 15 years in the Naval Reserves. Got out cause he was done with the Navy. Thought to join the Army reserves for the rest of his tour untill he could retire and get that pay check.

Like I said. Super smart guy, tons of certifications and owns his own Networking business.

So he joined up under some Networking MOS. After signing up and going to the mini-boot camp for prior service people, the Army came back and said that they didnt need him in that billet just yet. Guess what. He got temporaly assigned to an Infantry unit and is getting deployed to Iraq for 1 year.... He didnt sound to mad about it, but I know that he is...

Stay away from the Army...

After being in the service, I would rate them like this.

1 Airforce
2 Navy
3 Army
4 Maries

Thats the choice that I would enter if I could again.... Notice how the Army and Maries are on the bottom... I would go army over Mariens any day though....

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02-10-2006 02:27 PM  12 years agoPost 7
300wby

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Columbia City, Indiana

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I wouldnt mind going to war, I do have 3 kids and am married. Right now I am laid off, have been doing construction for 8 years. I am very tired of being flat broke around Christmas and all throuhg the winter then making descent money through the summer. My brother was in the Navy, he told me not to go in under general and dont take one of the Journeyman slots. I just want training for something els, I can put pipe in the ground 30 feet deep in my sleep but I cant make geed money doing it here in Indiana.

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02-10-2006 02:32 PM  12 years agoPost 8
DOperchal

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Ft Rucker, AL

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After being in the service, I would rate them like this.

1 Airforce
2 Navy
3 Army
4 Maries
Friggin Right!

Peace through superior firepower

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02-10-2006 03:02 PM  12 years agoPost 9
JitsuGuy

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Tulsa, Oklahoma

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Your recruiter CAN sign a waiver to get you into the Army. I know of a certain situation where an individual had a drug offense on his record, the recruiter signed the waiver and he was sent off to boot-camp.

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02-10-2006 03:15 PM  12 years agoPost 10
300wby

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Columbia City, Indiana

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He told me they wouldnt do the waiver, that is part of what made me so mad. He said 3 months ago it wouldnt be a problem, now its a problem.

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02-10-2006 04:30 PM  12 years agoPost 11
ScareCrow_Delta

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Sebastian, FL

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I see that the Marines is the last on the list. I like it that way, hoorahh.

Sgt, USMC, served in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Liberia. Would do it again and again any day for the country, and I was not even born here.
Edit:

~~~~ Defy the laws of gravity....gracefully ~~~~

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02-10-2006 04:33 PM  12 years agoPost 12
300wby

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Columbia City, Indiana

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It is appreciated by people that were, Thanks.

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02-10-2006 04:58 PM  12 years agoPost 13
Grant H

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Madison, WI

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Your recruiter CAN sign a waiver to get you into the Army. I know of a certain situation where an individual had a drug offense on his record, the recruiter signed the waiver and he was sent off to boot-camp.
Let me just tell you this. It is very easy to get a wavier. Your recuirter is just being lazy. I would go and talk to another one..

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02-10-2006 05:11 PM  12 years agoPost 14
300wby

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Columbia City, Indiana

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I have thaught about that, I talked with a retired recruiter on the phone one about this, he gave me the number for another guy that he said would get it taken care of. I might call him today.

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02-11-2006 12:45 AM  12 years agoPost 15
Jarold C

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Somewhere near Pittsburgh, PA

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Expungment won't help.
The military uses the FBI database, which is reserved for Law Enforcement / Government Agencies/ Security clearances/ Sentencing. Nothing is truly "expunged" from that database, and your identifiers (fingerprints, etc.) are never removed.
A civilian backround check (ie: for a bank teller's job) would not show the expunged crime, however.

Guess what? I just saved a ton of money on my Auto(rotation) insurance!

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02-11-2006 02:31 PM  12 years agoPost 16
bagobitz

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saddleworth,lancs,UK

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Anyone remember Arlo Guthrie ? "Alice's Restaurant"
Couldn't join the army and kill women and kids in Vietnam,..... 'cos he was a convicted LITTER DUMPER !!!!!
shows how fxxxed -up these Government jobsworths really are.

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