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02-08-2006 11:53 PM  12 years agoPost 1
tchavei

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I was just peeking around looking for info about the Nüremberg Fair and I came across this page: http://www.mcb-bregenz.at/index.php...com_content&;task=view&id=133&Itemid=44

If you scroll down you will find an item called Helicommand.

In German you can read that it not only stabilizes the heli (like the co-pilot) but is also able to keep it on one spot! It can be used near trees, houses and indoor.

Well... seems I'm going to hover my Freya 90 in the bathroom and film it for you guys... should bring up a bigger discussion than the living room hover movie


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02-09-2006 12:02 AM  12 years agoPost 2
Roger Hamilton

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Hope you've got a big bathroom or plenty of Freya spares

I saw the video of this system and the working display model on the Robbe stand. It seems impressive and takes reference from the ground also, however it needs to be quite close to the ground to be effective in that regard. When its not close to the ground it is not able to hold its position so well - still looks impressive.

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02-09-2006 12:08 AM  12 years agoPost 3
tchavei

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Hmmm

Well I can imagine myself flying around the field like bats from hell then putting it in a stationary hover, put my tx aside, smoke a cig and drink a beer. In the meanwhile I would go under the heli and refresh myself from the downdraft wind (its hot here in the summer). I then could go back to my tx and fly the rest of the tank.

Hmmm

Maybe now inflight refueling is finally possible? That would be also cool... I would have the flight line all by myself

Heheheh... I got to stop drinking


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02-09-2006 07:34 AM  12 years agoPost 4
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Comander
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Been at the show and getting some closer look on the Helicomanders and receiving some tech info and operations i can tell you it will be a Hit

There are 3 models, Standard, 3D and Rigid

differences are:
Standard is only for normal flying
3D is also for inverted
Rigid- for scales

some info
each device has 3 Gyros( famous brand) so you already save the money by not installing a gyro for the tail( commander will do the job)

there is a CCD sensor for scanning ground changes, this way the commander can be flown indoors as well.

Rigid- used in the scale, because it works like Vstabi, so no flybar needed, and 30% of extra power will be gained by this action.
Pricewise, looks very attractive compared to a price of 3 gyros

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02-10-2006 11:26 AM  12 years agoPost 5
IYKIST

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I hope it is not going to be as pricey and complicated like the Gyroner

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02-10-2006 01:34 PM  12 years agoPost 6
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another one here see pics..sorry cant read the blurb

http://www.3dpp.rc1.at/pages/stabilizer.htm

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02-10-2006 01:40 PM  12 years agoPost 7
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Helicommand
Barney

this is not a helicommand, this is the Stabilizer
completely different item

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02-10-2006 02:00 PM  12 years agoPost 8
tchavei

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Barney: thats the stabilizator from General Laser. It maitains the heli stable in any position (even inverted) but doesnt' keep it on one spot like the new robbe.

God... one day helis will be autonomous and we will only program them and drink a beer while we watch them perform 3D moves.

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02-10-2006 02:09 PM  12 years agoPost 9
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Rigid- used in the scale, because it works like Vstabi, so no flybar needed, and 30% of extra power will be gained by this action.
Isnt 30% extra power a bit exaggerated? I have read 15% more power with flybar less heads in other posts.

I am looking forward to the helicommand hits the marked - looks like a compact and functinonal unit



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02-10-2006 03:51 PM  12 years agoPost 10
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Rigid
LORENTS
i am passing the info as was explained by Robbe
i really dont know exactly what % is gained when taking the flybar off, but you might be right, 15-30%?

The main concept is the important one..

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02-10-2006 03:51 PM  12 years agoPost 11
crazzyjoe

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Yepeeeeee!!!!

With one of these babies (helicomand)I will be the next Curtis Youngblood,or just Crazzyjoe.

What about something with voice recognition where i can just yell out.. Hover.. invert and fly backwards 200 feet.. do loop to loop 3 times then land in back of my truck and turn off.

Just kidding.

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02-10-2006 03:57 PM  12 years agoPost 12
Lorents

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i am passing the info as was explained by Robbe
i really dont know exactly what % is gained when taking the flybar off, but you might be right, 15-30%?
I guess the power gain will differ from head to head - lets go for 15-30%



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02-10-2006 04:16 PM  12 years agoPost 13
KYLE 05

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Helicommand
Dont we fly these birds anymore. I could see an atvantage for a camera platform and such,but not for recrational flying.

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02-10-2006 07:35 PM  12 years agoPost 14
tchavei

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Kyle 05: well yes, flying is a pleasure but imagine you want to check for vibrations... you activate the system near ground and then you can walk around it and look for vibes if the system is as good as ppl talk about it.

I even can see the usefulness of the gadget for breaking in the engine...

Hmm... it could even be used as a big fan if you plug it to a fuel jug and a continuous 4.8V powersource

Freya PSCF - Personal summer cooling fan

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02-10-2006 08:33 PM  12 years agoPost 15
hombre

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Here's the link for the lowdown and price.

http://at.robbe-online.net/rims_at....71b3e0dc1460612

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02-13-2006 01:53 PM  12 years agoPost 16
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To view the info about the helicommand you have to type in helicommand in the search box on the Robbe front page as the link does not appear fully on the RR page as it's to loooongggg...it's a bit pricey ain't it!!!

http://at.robbe-online.net/rims_at....71b3e0dc1460612

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02-13-2006 02:04 PM  12 years agoPost 17
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It doesn't seem too pricey if you read the part that speaks about in-built HH gyro... you could dispense the cost of a seperate HH gyro.

I don't know if it replaces a 401 tough.

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02-13-2006 07:34 PM  12 years agoPost 18
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The three models are shown here

[url=http://www.hobbystar.de/catalog/index.php?cPath=254]

It also has additional description
but it is in german

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02-10-2007 08:50 PM  11 years agoPost 19
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Hi guys,
Thank for the info on the helicommand!
I'am converting a Raptor50-Flybarless..and i'am looking for stabiliaztion..........
Has the Rigid been tested 3D yet?-is it good? or is it mainly for AP?
have some questions,may I ask?
1;Is the Helicommand Rigid good for 3 D?, Has it been tested? is it good for flybarless heli?
2;I heard that you only use it under grass surface?-is it true? Can you fly under hard terrian?
3;What is best;To start off with a 3A, then upgrade through software,or buy it Rigid from start?
4;Is it worth the money?
(I'am doing some inverted,& stating in 3D--will it be good for me?)-R-9

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02-11-2007 08:12 AM  11 years agoPost 20
Futurac

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Helicommand
raptor-9

see answers
1- Rigid include 3 gyros inside, but no second sensor for inverted.

2- not correct, you can use it on ground/asphalt as well

3- Rigid is mostly for Flybarless helis, so i am not sure you need it from the beginning.

4- Yes, comparable product( to rigid( cost 2 times more, and it is Made in Germany)

Tony- there are gyros inside, which are not less in quality then 401.

I have the Brochure with detailed explanantions , size is +-5 MB, so you welcome to mail me, i will send this to you

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