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02-08-2006 10:30 PM  12 years agoPost 1
simon109

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Hi,

Looking at both but not sure on which I've had loads of micro/mini heli's and spent loads on them and none of them have impressed me !

Had a Trex v2 and really didn't like it so it's putting me off the SE. Not had a Zoom but alot of people seem to have trouble with the tail.

Had a Hornet 2 and that was biggest waste of money i've spent on heli's so I don't think I will be buying an X3D.

Any suggestions ?

Simon.

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02-08-2006 10:33 PM  12 years agoPost 2
doorman

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T-Rex??
Did you have the T-rex XL CDE version???
What didn't you like about the one that you had... this new CDE version is one very nice flying unit and the SE is the fully upgraded version of that.... this is about the best flying mini heli that I have flown to date....
Stan....

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02-08-2006 10:37 PM  12 years agoPost 3
simon109

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Hi,

I had just the standard V2 when it came out. I was running a Mega with 3s and it just flew like s*** and felt well under powered, also the motor and lipo's ran too hot.

Simon.

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02-08-2006 10:42 PM  12 years agoPost 4
kookboy

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Hi,

I had just the standard V2 when it came out. I was running a Mega with 3s and it just flew like s*** and felt well under powered, also the motor and lipo's ran too hot.
Then there was something wrong.

I ran a V1, V2 and modded V2 XL and they are were rock stable providing I spent my time and detail in setting them up correctly.

It's all in the setup. Not the heli.

... But honey it was only $$$

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02-08-2006 10:45 PM  12 years agoPost 5
TheX

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I had a v2 with a Mega 16/15/3 on 3s and it was a rocket ship. It still flies today but it's not quite the v2 anymore.

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02-08-2006 10:47 PM  12 years agoPost 6
colsy

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Simon,
Bin there done that,
Zoom Pro, flies the same as original zoom, v2 zoom is better, but still flies the same, all have there problems,
i had the original t-rex which was ok, better priced spares than zoom, flies different not better, i.e had better cyclic response, but was not as agile IMHO.
I went to buy the T-REX SE, opened the box in the shop, first thing i picked up was the pre-assembled rotor head, which (i know i'm gonna get flamed) had more play in it than my T-rex V1.
Closed the box and bought a CDE XL,, flies very nice, with the usual tinkering, has the same amount of issues as all micros just different ones.
The CDE XL is an afterthought from align (i know i.m gonna get flamed for that as well).
If you are dead set on a small micro, then i would by a T-REX HDE XL.
There ya go.
Col.............

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02-08-2006 10:48 PM  12 years agoPost 7
simon109

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Thats the same motor as I had, and felt very underpowered and got very hot. Maybe I used the wrong pinion ?

Simon.

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02-08-2006 10:48 PM  12 years agoPost 8
doorman

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Set Up.....
Well, I will agree that a good set up is needed, but I had a V1 and V2 and sold them both off.... and I worked on them quite a bit and just could not get the "feel" that I liked... and I would have not purchased another rex, but ended up with the XL CDE in a trade and figured I would set it up and fly it, just to see if anything had changed and it is not even the same heli!!!! This little guy is one awesome machine... box stock or blinged out to the end it flies great compared to the older models... Align has done their homework and now they have a heli that I can say does actually fly instead of just sort of aim!!!!!
The SE is the top of the pile and I am certain you will like it.... they do fly "now"......
Good Luck...
I am running a Mega with 3cell and it is one fun little heli... and will do anything in the book, PLUS.... it even makes me look as if I know what I am doing... (at times!!!!!)

Stan

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02-08-2006 10:51 PM  12 years agoPost 9
colsy

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By the way, regardless of what anyone says,,, they are far from rock stable.
They can be setup to be reasonably stable, (hovering stability).
But when compared to 30/50 class nitros, sorry!! but they are not.???
Col..

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02-08-2006 10:53 PM  12 years agoPost 10
simon109

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Thanks all.

colsy, do you not like the Zoom ?

I would still like to run 3s, but I want some power and cool temperture's after a flight.

How much bigger is the SE over the Zoom ?

Simon.

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02-08-2006 11:04 PM  12 years agoPost 11
colsy

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Simon,
I do like the zoom, and still own two of them, and fly them more than my rex.s, but they are very different.
I guess it depends on what type of flying you do, i fly the zooms,and rex.s on the same Kokam 3s1p 2000 packs, the zooms are excellent for general pottering around and hovering exercises, due to the disk loading and low weight, and reward you with 17-19 minute flights.
But if i fancy a good chuck about then it is the CDE Xl for sure, the extra weight makes them a bit more stable, and the cyclic response is nothing short of excellent, but at the expense of 8-9 minute flight's. so depends what you want from it...
Ps every crash i have had on my t-rex works out more dearer than the zoom, despite the price difference in spares, t-rex does damage more bits, and if you by the CDE, you can include servo gears into the equation as well.
Col.............

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02-08-2006 11:11 PM  12 years agoPost 12
simon109

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Cheers colsy,

Hmmm decisions, decisions.

I want something that I can throw about and practice new things with and is cheap(ish) to repair.

Whats a good powerfull 3s set up ? Would like 10mins flight if possible.

Simon.

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02-08-2006 11:11 PM  12 years agoPost 13
exeter_acres

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megas run very hot....


not sure if I missed it.... but which batteries??

I'm old, bitter, and don't like people.... get over it

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02-08-2006 11:14 PM  12 years agoPost 14
simon109

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2100mAh's TP I think, can't remember.

Simon.

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02-08-2006 11:20 PM  12 years agoPost 15
kookboy

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By the way, regardless of what anyone says,,, they are far from rock stable.
They can be setup to be reasonably stable, (hovering stability).
But when compared to 30/50 class nitros, sorry!! but they are not.???
Col..
Rock stable for my liking/opinion.

Stable for one person will be uncontrollable to another or vice versa.

Point is that I had v1,v2,xl versions and all were unstable until I took the time to set them up correctly.

Now all 3 are solid in my opinion.

You're comparing apples and oranges rex to nitro's.

... But honey it was only $$$

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02-08-2006 11:28 PM  12 years agoPost 16
colsy

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Simon.
Hmmm decisions, decisions.
You will for sure always regret it (whatever you decide).
I want something that I can throw about and practice new things with and is cheap(ish) to repair.
Join the club
Whats a good powerfull 3s set up ? Would like 10mins flight if possible.
I would go for the T-Rex XL hde, it flies the same and is easier to setup and maintain. mine has HS56 servos, which are very cheap with good torque and centering, cheap gear set and good availability, not the fastest but a good balance.
I have the 420L and CC35, without doubt, it is not that powerfull so i am sure there are others that will pipe up with good suggestions, seems like you have decent batteries, i will just say that i have a CSM560 and wouldn't describe it as plug and play,,, more like plug and "pray".. would say stick to Futaba 401, less hassle.
Col...

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02-08-2006 11:34 PM  12 years agoPost 17
simon109

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You will for sure always regret it (whatever you decide).
Join the club
LOL
seems like you have decent batteries,
Not got any batteries at the moment, I was using 2100mAh before. Probably use some FP.

Simon.

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02-08-2006 11:47 PM  12 years agoPost 18
colsy

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KOOKBOY,
Listen Mate no offense, but i would like to clarify some statement,s
Rock stable for my liking/opinion.
Sorry stable is stable, no oppions nessasary.
Stable for one person will be uncontrollable to another or vice versa.
Anyone that can fly a heli would not associate the word uncontrollable, to a heli that someone can fly,,, !!"true"
Point is that I had v1,v2,xl versions and all were unstable until I took the time to set them up correctly.
True i agree, accept that the learning process and knowledge gained, to set them up properly, only equates to better control.
Now all 3 are solid in my opinion.
No, all three are miles away from solid, in comparison to a 30/50 size.
You're comparing apples and oranges rex to nitro's.
Yes i am, the same as comparing a 400 class e-micr0 to a 30/50 class nitro..

My statement refered to that rock solid, i fly Raptor 30's and 50's, and none of the above mentioned even come close in terms of "the stated (rock solid)".
I assume we are talking hovering, nevertheless the topic is based on zoom pro versus t-rex se.
I made a comment that refered to hovering rock solid,,
sorry but they don't.
Back to the subject..
Col..

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02-08-2006 11:57 PM  12 years agoPost 19
colsy

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Simon, sure cant help much with Lipo's, i use Kokam 3s1p's and stick to them as i use them in my Ultrafly aircraft and zoom/trex, and i use them 3 in parallel in my eco 8, so they suit my style.
Nevertheless i recently bought a FP EVO 20 1800, and was quite impressed, quite a bit lighter than the kokams, and about the same duration, probably even ran slightly cooler than my gen 3 koks.
Colin..........

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02-09-2006 12:03 AM  12 years agoPost 20
kookboy

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My rex hovers rock solid and my friend's Zoom hovers rock solid.

Both have been heavily modified and painstakingly setup to the tee.

I think you can't go wrong with either SE or the Zoom.

Both are great heli's and run on TP2100 PL's.

No matter which heli you are flying, if setup properly, you'll enjoy it.

... But honey it was only $$$

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