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02-08-2006 08:26 PM  12 years agoPost 1
Uffe

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I just began the assembling of my JR GSR 260, remembering my dealer saying "Remember to use the red thread lock for this and the green for that." I just can´t remember the conclusion of where to use the different locks and I can't find it in the assembling instructions. Can someone please help me out?

By the way, would Zippo lighter fluid be unsuitable for cleaning the threads before applying thread lock?

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02-09-2006 11:58 AM  12 years agoPost 2
RobGiles(JR)

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Lock Tite
The red is for more critical screws and bolts. Use this on areas that require extra attention. I.E Motor mounts, main shaft collar, muffler bolts, flybar weights, tail fins, or anywhere you feel u need it. I generally use it it on things i know i wont need to adjust later, and do not plan on taking apart barring a crash. Follow the instruction manual...JR is pretty good about labeling what should be thread-locked and what type of thread-lock to use. They are typically labeled as JR Team Tips. Regards,

BTW....I would not worry about using ANY kind of solvent to clean up the threads. If u feel u must, using rubbing alcohol.

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02-09-2006 12:19 PM  12 years agoPost 3
rickc

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If I recall correctly the red and green thread lock that comes in the JR kits are different than most are use to. The red in a non permanent like the blue Locktite brand we are use to here in the states and the green is permanent like the red Locktite here in the US.

Rick

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02-09-2006 12:36 PM  12 years agoPost 4
Uffe

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I just emailed my local dealer who claimed that red is for threads and green is for more "open" surfaces such as where the pinion gear attaches to the start shaft bearing block. He also, like Rob Giles, said I need not worry about cleaning the threads.

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02-10-2006 01:43 PM  12 years agoPost 5
ea434

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UFFE

In Japan they use different coulorcodes on threadlock than we are used too -- hence the confusion.

Well the correct use is as follows:
The GREEN threadlock in JR kits is "HARD" It's more like a glue and should NOT be used on threads unless you don't want it to come apart at all (almost..)

The RED is "SOFT" for threads and is easy to come apart.

Believe there should be a small notice on the first page or so in JR manuals about this.

JR: Red = Soft Green = Hard
Rest of the World: Red = HARD Blue = Soft

Easy to mix up

JR Sylphide EX, Super Gracy EX, JR 12X

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02-11-2006 04:51 PM  12 years agoPost 6
Buzzin Brian

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The is one of the biggest reasons I use my own Loctite. I just throw the stuff that comes in the kits in the trash. I have no need for it.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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02-12-2006 03:13 PM  12 years agoPost 7
Uffe

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Thanks for sorting things out! One problem still remains though; the green "threadlock" is'nt hardening! I clean the metal surfaces with white spirits and apply a small amount that makes a thin glue surface, but after 24 hours I can easily pull the pinion out of the bearing block. Maybe I should do like Buzzin Brian and throw it away in favour to the original Loctite.

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02-12-2006 05:02 PM  12 years agoPost 8
Buzzin Brian

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Thats what I would do.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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02-13-2006 08:00 AM  12 years agoPost 9
ea434

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UFFE

If White Spirits is the same in Sweden as in Norway you should not use it for degreasing. Use alcohol. The thread lock will sit better.

In fact the green thread lock from JR is not that hard... but after a couple of months curing its hard...

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02-13-2006 10:58 AM  12 years agoPost 10
Uffe

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I'll try with alcohol instead. Thanks!

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11-19-2011 01:20 PM  6 years agoPost 11
Helios007

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Hello There,

I am happy to announce that I am the proud owner of A JR VIBE 50 NEX. I have some questions for owners who have built and flew the Vibe 50 NEX excessively:

1- In the Assembly Instructions Manuals P.18 it is stated to cut the Silicone Small Tube to 82mm, when I did so and fitted the Clunk / Tube / Grommet ( tank assembled ) then once I held the tank in a Vertical position ( As if the Heli is in a 90 Degree Position) the clunk was like a couple of centimeters from the bottom.
Is that OK ? Normal ?

2- In relation to point (1) I am considering installing a Header tank ( Quick UK 60CC).
Any Advice ? Is it required ? I feel more secure having it especially after noticing point ( 1)....

3- In the Assembly manual P.14 They Refer to JR Thread Lock Red ( Soft ) and Green ( Hard ) . There is no Loctite number to Refer to ??? Specs ??
I use Zap Loctite (Thread Lock).
Red PT-71( High strength ) and Blue PT-42 ( Medium strength ) .
Is the Zap Red Equivalent to JR's referred to as "Green- Hard " and the Zap Blue equivalent to JR's referred to as "Red - Soft " ????
What did you guys" who already assembled" use ??? The kit Came with No Loctite (Thread Lock) ...

4- In Relation to Point (3) , I used Zap ( Blue ) loctite to assemble the Clutch Bell to the Pinion Gear ( Assembly Manual P. 16) .
Is that enough ??? I feel using Zap "Red" will be too much .... especially if i need to replace the clutch bell later on .. it will require a miracle to disassemble.....

I hope to Get feedback ASAP , since i'm anxious to finish assembly and test fly the New Vibe 50 NEX ...

Regards,

Helios007 ( Peter )

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11-20-2011 02:28 PM  6 years agoPost 12
chawki212

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Hi Helios007,

I have assembled my NEX long time ago and i do not have it with me for the moment. I do not recall having a problem with the silicone tube in the fuel tank cutting it to the length mentioned in the assembly manual.

Concerning the header tank, i did not fit one on mine since the fuel tank is already very big and i time my flights to 6 minutes, with my Novarossi engine, i always land with about third of a tank.

For the loctite question, you are right and you have to use the medium strength blue PT-42 where they mention (Red)
On the clutch bell, don't be surprised but i use grease instead of loctite in order to be able to dismantle in the future. I have done this for 5 years with no problem .

Good luck with your assembly.

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