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02-08-2006 08:11 PM  12 years agoPost 1
balbs

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I read threads discussing why the Honey Bee is more bang for the buck than the Blade CP. Just curious as to what people think what the Blade CP has over the Honey Bee CP2? In other words why would one still buy the Blade CP instead of the CP2.

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02-08-2006 08:23 PM  12 years agoPost 2
Betofazzo

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Hi i have both helis, the blade and honeybee are the same heli, but the honeybee comes whit bell-hiller head, is more precise and responsive, and included lipo batt and charger, both fly good based on factory specification, if i have to choose i get the honeybee cp2, the other problem is the spare parts, many hobbyshops dont carry them (cp2), but many parts of the blade can be used on hbcp2.
Finally is your choice... good luck.

Finally I have a Turbine heli.. :) Mobb Powercat !!

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02-08-2006 08:25 PM  12 years agoPost 3
Motions

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In a word...Marketing.

E-Flight pushes the marketing on the Blade a lot more than E-Sky does on the HB CP2. The stock CP2 is about the same as an upgraded Blade and much cheaper. The Blade has just pounded the market so much making it more common.

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02-08-2006 08:48 PM  12 years agoPost 4
Darthdrk

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I have both the blade CP and the Honeybee CP2. I have to admit I like the Blade CP over the Honeybee CP2. The Blade CP head is simpler and more durable than the Honeybee CP2. They both have fragile mainframes but when its all said and done, they both have their good and bad points. To probably get a better heli is to go with a mixture of Blade Head, Honeybee maingear, Blade 4-1, Honeybee mainframe, and hummingbird sym blades <---seams like a good combo because it works for me. Those Honeybee and blade balsa blades has to go for two reasons, they are two fragile and to expensive for the wear and tear you get out of them.

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02-08-2006 09:46 PM  12 years agoPost 5
turboomni

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Hey balbs,, still confused I'm sure!
I don't own the CP2 but do own a blade. In looking at your profile ,this isn't your first heli,this isn't your first electric either and you fly nitro. If I had to do it over again as I'm in a simular situation as you heli wise is to consider the the CP2.
My main beef with the Blade is it doesn't have enough cyclic for me. After the first few flights I removed completely the flybar weights and still am not satisfied. I'm waiting for the Damn Bell-Hiller upgrade to come out for the Blade. Maybe wait till it comes out and if as good as the CP2 go for the Blade as many LHS carry parts. Mine does.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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02-08-2006 09:55 PM  12 years agoPost 6
bbeverlie

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The BladeCP comes with a useful manual unlike the Honey Bee
which comes with a changlish joke.

The Blade is carried at many LHS stores with parts.

So if you don't need a good manual or on hand parts the
Honey Bee is a good deal!

AMA#846952

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02-08-2006 10:13 PM  12 years agoPost 7
balbs

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So which of these would be stable enough to do inverted hovers over the coffee table in your living room

Balbs

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02-08-2006 10:35 PM  12 years agoPost 8
Motions

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Well that I wouldn't try anyway, but if I had to, it would be the CP2.

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02-08-2006 10:45 PM  12 years agoPost 9
balbs

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Motions,yeah I wouldn't either, just trying to grasp at which one is more stable

Darthdrk, does the Blade CP and the Blade CX use the same 4-in-1?

Balbs

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02-08-2006 10:51 PM  12 years agoPost 10
balbs

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Found my answer, Blade CP and CX use different 4-1s. CP EFLH1025, CX EFLH1027.

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02-08-2006 11:20 PM  12 years agoPost 11
turboomni

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I have heard the Blade is more stable and the CP2 has a little better chance to be inverted over the dining room table.
The CP2 seems from what I've heard more touchy but better cyclic because of the Bell Hiller head

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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02-09-2006 01:40 AM  12 years agoPost 12
slider46

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The only way to find out about either heli is to buy them both and fly them like it was your last flight, then report back.....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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02-09-2006 01:49 AM  12 years agoPost 13
akerkhof

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I have compiled a list for just such an occasion. Most of the comments here are pretty on target. Some more points: while the Engrish in the Honeybee manual is a bit rediculous, it is also pretty easy to follow and get the gist of. Also while Blade parts are more available locally, this is not always the case, and even when it is, the way some LHS are run the parts you need most are out of stock. You pay dearly (like, double the cost) for this premium as well.

Also, I don't agree at all that the HB has a more fragile head. More complicated, yes, but the shafts seem harder and less prone to bend, and the plastic parts seem just as tough. YMMV, of course, but I fly around both, and do not see a statistical difference between one or the other, and if anything, the 'bee is tougher.

Both are a lot of fun for the bucks.


-- Aron in Indiana -- http://www.neolith.org/cp2 -- Honeybee CP2 Resources

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02-09-2006 04:20 AM  12 years agoPost 14
turboomni

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akerkhof, Nice job on your link. You spent alot of time on this and it should really give balbs alot of good info.
Would you say that the Blade CP with the AEK+ Lipo AND the Bell Hiller would even up the two heli's in performance??

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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02-09-2006 06:00 AM  12 years agoPost 15
balbs

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Hell yeah that is alot of info. Great job akerhof. On your link it mentions the barebones Blade CP. Is there such a version? If there is, I'll do what slider says and get both

I don't want the whole set, just the heli.

Balbs

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02-09-2006 03:17 PM  12 years agoPost 16
akerkhof

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Thanks guys. Yes, you can get the blade barebones kit, which is the frame, blades, motors, and that's it. Although the only source I know for sure you can get it from (and at that price) is the dreaded HeliHobby.com. You can probably get it from Horizon too, and lots of other places. I only keep track of the honeybee suppliers, and most don't stock both, with the exception of Helihobby.


-- Aron in Indiana -- http://www.neolith.org/cp2 -- Honeybee CP2 Resources

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02-09-2006 04:12 PM  12 years agoPost 17
akerkhof

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Yeah, I would think after the upgrades the Blade would be fairly even in performance, except that the honeybee still has the lipo advantage, more secure servo mounts, and arguably a stronger skid/tail mount. I don't know how much slop the taped servos introduce, but just watching my friends cyclic move on the ground it has to be considerable. The pivot points on those can move 1/8 to 1/4" an inch from limit to limit! But mechanically they would be very similar.


-- Aron in Indiana -- http://www.neolith.org/cp2 -- Honeybee CP2 Resources

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02-09-2006 05:17 PM  12 years agoPost 18
balbs

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I'm not into hard 3D, I'm looking for something that looks smooth in FFF, easy to handle and predictable but at the same time capable of some loops, smooth rolls, and a little inverted capability. No piro flips and tic tocs for me yet.

Balbs

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02-09-2006 05:25 PM  12 years agoPost 19
akerkhof

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Like you said, why not get both, but I think you'll like the honeybee better. The sym blades help so much with FFF and dealing with light winds.


-- Aron in Indiana -- http://www.neolith.org/cp2 -- Honeybee CP2 Resources

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02-09-2006 09:44 PM  12 years agoPost 20
slider46

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I'm seriously thinking about getting a barebones Honeybee cp2 just to try it and see how it compares to my upgrades blade I fly now. I really like the AEK and 11.1 lipos. longer flying times is a big advantage.....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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