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02-08-2006 07:21 PM  12 years agoPost 1
balbs

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Seems Century offers a couple of Brushless motors for the HB series. One, a 370 sized one for the V3 (CNE252ASP) and one for the 3D Pro (CNE262A). Which one would be good for the Elite CP?

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Balbs

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02-08-2006 07:35 PM  12 years agoPost 2
coolice

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Hey,

Ideally you want the one marketed for the 3D PRO as essentially it is the same size and weight as the Elite CP with collective pitch also.

That should suit you well.
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02-08-2006 07:43 PM  12 years agoPost 3
balbs

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Cool, should I get the one with the 13T Pinion?

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02-08-2006 08:13 PM  12 years agoPost 4
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of the two parts you posted, they are both for the 3dpro. the 370 lighting motor is the motor the 3dpro ARF originally shipped with. the other is a more recent release--an outrunner.

all things equal, the outrunner is a better motor. but, all things are *not* equal. the 370 is only $24; the outrunner is $42. for $10 more you could just get the JGF 400DF, *THE* recommended motor for the 3D pro (do a search on the DF in this forum).

if it ain't broke, break it.

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02-08-2006 08:17 PM  12 years agoPost 5
genovia

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CNE252ASP-Lightning Brushless Motor Special w/ 10T Pinion Gear
CNE262A-Brushless Outrunner 400A Plus w/13T Pinion Gear

CNE262A has a lot of punch.

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02-08-2006 08:24 PM  12 years agoPost 6
balbs

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How do the Century Electron 18 ESC work with these? Are they okay or junk?

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02-08-2006 08:59 PM  12 years agoPost 7
cudaboy_71

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18amps is cutting it close for the outrunner, i believe (feel free to correct if i'm wrong)

i use eflite's 20amp esc and have been fine with both the lightning and the 400DF w/ TP1320 3s.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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02-08-2006 10:00 PM  12 years agoPost 8
balbs

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Cudaboy
Yeah, I also have a 3D Pro and I think I'll go with that motor\esc combo for it. (per this thread...http://runryder.com/t232860p1/)

For the Elite CP, I think I'll just go with the cheaper Century CNE262A for now

Now if somebody can direct me to how to wire a separate brushless ESC with the brushed esc\mixer for the Elite CP, that would be great.

Sorry to hijack my own thread.

Balbs

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02-08-2006 11:19 PM  12 years agoPost 9
leslie

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Hi All,

I'm running 2 Eite fp's and my 3dpro with the lightening motor (24.00) is very compelling. I'm please with the performance in all three birds. I'm not doing 3d yet, but my pro is very zippy with this motor and the flight times are around 15min with tp1320's.

there is a good article at helihobby on going with separates. It helped me with the whole wireing thing.

http://www.helihobby.com/html/separate_electronics.html


I'm pleased with the bang for the buck of the 24.00 lightening!

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02-09-2006 01:06 AM  12 years agoPost 10
balbs

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Awesome link Leslie. Thanks!!!

Do you think I can use the existing mixer for the ESC for the tail rotor and just not plug anything on the main motor portion of it?

Balbs

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02-09-2006 01:20 AM  12 years agoPost 11
leslie

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Hi Balbs,

What existing ESC do you have? What are you running for a gyro?

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02-09-2006 06:05 AM  12 years agoPost 12
balbs

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I have the brushed mixer esc that came with the Elite CP combo. I'm thinking of just upgrading the main motor...at least for now.

So far it seems that I'm leaning toward the:
Century Outrunner brushless motor CNE262A
E-Flite 20 ESC
3S 1320 prolites

What's the temperature like on the CNE252. Does it run hot?

Balbs

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02-09-2006 09:14 AM  12 years agoPost 13
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That CNE252ASP seems to be a relabelled Himaxx 2015/4100. If that's the case then at $24.00 with pinion its hard to pass up! I have the Himaxx motor in my Elite CP, I put a heatsink on right from the start (out of habit...) and think the motor temperatures are fine.

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02-09-2006 11:43 AM  12 years agoPost 14
leslie

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Hi,

I believe the cne262asp lightening motor is a rebadged himax too. I've been running these with a heat sink for a couple years now. They get warm to hot but I've never had a problem. I was thinking of getting the outrunner when one fails. Just has not happened.

A heat sink does make a significant difference. I was running my beltdrive fp without a heat sink and the motor was quite hot.

cheers,
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02-10-2006 01:33 AM  12 years agoPost 15
balbs

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So, can I use the E-Flite 20 ESC for the main motor and use the CNE052 Mixer Controller board for the stock tail only connected to it?

Thanks,

Balbs

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02-10-2006 01:38 AM  12 years agoPost 16
leslie

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Hi Balbs,

The only concern might be weight. I'm not super familiar with the eflite ESC, I assuming it a brushless controller; or the CNE052 so I'll let others chime in here.

Keep us posted!

Cheers,
Leslie

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02-10-2006 01:45 AM  12 years agoPost 17
garage_flyer

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That should work. But make sure only one BEC is in use to the Rx. I would cut both the red wire from the CNE052 to the Rx. Also split the battery to both ESCs.

3D Pro? I have only "1D" under my belt, what am I going to do with "3D"?

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02-10-2006 01:57 AM  12 years agoPost 18
garage_flyer

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With this setup I think you need to split the throttle signal as well to both ESCs

3D Pro? I have only "1D" under my belt, what am I going to do with "3D"?

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02-10-2006 02:06 AM  12 years agoPost 19
balbs

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"I would cut both the red wire from the CNE052 to the Rx"

I'll be sure to remember that...I hope. Thanks for the tip.

leslie, the CNE052 is the 1 piece ESC unit that controls and mixes both the main and tail rotors. I'm thinking of using the E-Flite ESC for the upgraded brushless main motor and leaving the CNE052 for the tail only.

Balbs

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