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02-08-2006 07:03 PM  12 years agoPost 21
scotter

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Winston-Salem, NC

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Private pilot
I am a private pilot, just got my ticket last August. I have lots of Tomahawk time from my training, and about 10 hours in a Cirrus since then, which belongs to my father. I have a Kitfox project in the garage which I need to get off my butt and get completed so I can get out and fly more. Rental costs are pretty prohibitive. Run down tomahawk costs $75/hour. Beat up Archer $105/hour. Flying Cirrus with Dad costs me no $$, but with him I will always be the student and always getting told how to do it better. That can be tough on the nerves after an hour or so, but I still enjoy flying with him.

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02-08-2006 07:10 PM  12 years agoPost 22
spaceman spiff

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Tucson

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I'm taking lessons and working on restoring/updating an old gyrocopter.

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02-08-2006 07:22 PM  12 years agoPost 23
FenderBean

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Fort Hood TX

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I fly AH-64Ds in the army, been doing it for almost 4 years, have my commercial helicopter lic, I got it when i finished flight school but havent done any civ flying yet, other than a flight in a 162, i quickly realised how boring it was, except for take of and landing............im deff a heli guy but i plane on getting the fixed wing course before i retire from the army...........nothing like uncle same paying you to learn to fly and get your tickets lol

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02-08-2006 07:47 PM  12 years agoPost 24
shuttlepilot

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Mullins, South Carolina

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I flew professionally in the aerial mapping field for about 8 years. Before that I instructed and flew some charter stuff. I would love to still be doing it, but the computer industry was much kinder to me than the aviation industry in the compensation department.

Gas is Great
Camper Fuel is Better!!
QWW Helis

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02-08-2006 07:50 PM  12 years agoPost 25
helifever

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BE-8750

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Getting my ppl helicopter on R22 right now...

helifever

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02-08-2006 07:51 PM  12 years agoPost 26
pcliftonjr

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Phoenix, AZ

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I'm licensed (Private) for Fixed wing...haven't flown in quite a while. Too expense if you just putting around.

Paul

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02-08-2006 08:04 PM  12 years agoPost 27
NZ_Neil

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Auckland, New Zealand

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Taking Jason & Alan Flying In Mine Tommorow
I have a C172RG with all the bling.

Garmin IFR certified GPS
Autoplilot
Retracts
Variable Pitch Prop
STOL Kit etc

Taking Jason Krause & Alan Szabo flying tommorow as they have been down in NZ for a fun fly last weekend.

Neil Harker
Auckland
New Zealand

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02-08-2006 08:59 PM  12 years agoPost 28
fitenfyr

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Port Orchard, Washington

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Private SEL with Instrument rating.
Enough time in Helis for the rating.
Working on my CSEL and then going to do a rotory add on.

I am just over 200 hours now in about 13 years. I need to get my act together.

I will take that 75.00 and hour. Right now the 172's at the FBO I am flying are 111.00 an hour.

Jason Stiffey
Fly Fast....Live Slow...

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02-08-2006 09:03 PM  12 years agoPost 29
JitsuGuy

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Tulsa, Oklahoma

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Did some hang glider training a few times and loved it. Unfortunately, in Oklahoma it's not very popular because of the lack of cliffs.

I'd definitely be pursuing it if I lived in a place that had the topology for it.

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02-08-2006 09:05 PM  12 years agoPost 30
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Big Coppitt Key, FL

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1979 - Seagull 3 rogallo-wing hang-glider; 60 flights (4/1 glide ratio. Oy.)
1983 - Eipper Quicksilver MX ultralight; 280 hrs (260 lbs, 40hp)
1986 - Cessna 152, Piper Arrow, Beech Musketeer; 50 hrs (student ticket)
1995 - BarcaLounger recliner; 15,000 hrs and counting (burrpprp)
2004 - BarcaLounger recliner w/G3 flight sim; 700 hrs and counting ()

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02-08-2006 10:02 PM  12 years agoPost 31
GyroRon

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Fort Mill South Carolina

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I see alot of complaints about the cost of rentals.... And I too would be reluctant to pay those rates too.

Just so you guys know, It is possible to own and fly a airplane for not that much money.

A Cessna 150 in decent shape - not exactly a looker, but airworthy - can be picked up for around 15 grand. 15 grand borrowed would cost you about 300$ a month.

insurance which is not always required - some states do require, others don't - would run about 500-600$ per year for full coverage including hull insurance. That would be about 50$ per month.

Annual inspections can cost alot or very little depending on how much you help the mechanic and how much work the plane needs. Figure about 600$ a year for annual. So that is another 50$ per month.

Figure another couple hundred for oil changes, tires, light bulbs etc.... so add one more 50$ a month expense

Then you need a place to keep it. Most airports don't charge much for a tie down spot outside. typically under 50$ a month.

So you are at 500$ a month plus fuel - most Cessna 150's can use low octane autogas and burn around 5-6 gallons per hour.

I know that seems like a lot of money, but it not really when you think about it. Might have to cut back on R/C helicopter bling stuff, and go out to dinner a little less often. Plus the Cessna APPRECIATES in value so you should always be able to recover your investment in the plane and if you buy a good plane to start with and take care of it, the maintance will probably be a good bit less than what I listed above.

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02-08-2006 10:08 PM  12 years agoPost 32
GyroRon

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Fort Mill South Carolina

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other options are small single seat experimentals. These don't need the same annual inspections that the Cessna needs so that costs less. They typically burn less gas, and need less maintance - which on a experimental anyone can do the work, a FAA certified mechanic is not required unlike the Cessna.

Some of the cheap planes to looks for are Corbin Baby Aces, Flybabys, Volksplanes.... and many many others. These typically go for well under 10 grand and in great shape.

Some even have folding wings so you can take them home on a trailer and keep them at your house to save on airport tie down or hangar fees.

Typical costs... 7500$ for Baby Ace = 150$ per month, conditional inspection once a year at around 300$ = 25$ per month, maintance and oil etc.... estimate 300$ = 25$ per month. So for around 300$ per month your flying your own airplane.

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02-08-2006 10:11 PM  12 years agoPost 33
GyroRon

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Fort Mill South Carolina

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Last option is ultralight airplanes and gyroplanes, powered parachutes, trikes, etc....

Alot of these can be bought for under 5 grand in decent shape and they require no annual inspections of any type, no pilots license to fly them, no insurance in most cases, and they are even cheaper for parts and maintance.

For what alot of people here have in their helicopter fleets money wise, they could be flying around in a nice ultralight.

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02-08-2006 10:19 PM  12 years agoPost 34
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Big Coppitt Key, FL

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"For what alot of people here have in their helicopter fleets money wise, they could be flying around in a nice ultralight."

Sure we could, Ron, but what about the urge to merge with death-defying aerobatics and 3D flip-flopping? That's the clincher for me. And although no one hopes for a crash at the airpark, occasional carnage and the entertainment value it provides is guaranteed.

Ideal scene? Do both. On a budget? RC wins hands down.

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02-08-2006 10:19 PM  12 years agoPost 35
moorecj98

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na

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I have been flying full size heli's since i was 15. I have most my time in a 300c and MD 500F

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02-08-2006 10:36 PM  12 years agoPost 36
Brett Horton

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Multi Engine - Instrument - Commercial - @ 1250 Hours 600 multi
Fixed Wing
Also an A&P
Have not flown in 5 years!!

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02-08-2006 11:16 PM  12 years agoPost 37
Flyfalcons

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Bonney Lake, WA

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GyroRon, some of your information regarding experimentals isn't correct. They require the same maintenance as any other certified plane, and require a licensed mechanic to do so. The only exception is if you built the plane yourself, then you can apply for a repairman's certificate to do maintenance on the one plane that you built. However, I'm sure a simple experimental will need less in the way of actual maintenance than a more complex, or older, certified airplane.

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02-08-2006 11:30 PM  12 years agoPost 38
K-Lo

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Monterrey Mexico

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Priv Helicopter
I have my FAA and DGAC private Helicopter License and fly a Bell 206B, and also fly RC

This is my ship:

Do what you can with what you have. Often is more than enough.

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02-08-2006 11:49 PM  12 years agoPost 39
Raj Patel

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Humble, TX

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I own a 300HP Cherokee 6 and fly professionally for ConocoPhillips as a Lead Pilot on the EMB135LR.

7200 TT, ATP, CFI, CFII, MEI, A&P. Got about 2200 hrs in a Gulfstream II, 2500 hrs in a EMB135 LR and going to school on the Gulfstream 550 in August.

Raj

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02-09-2006 12:01 AM  12 years agoPost 40
Brett Horton

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Hey Raj Patel,
I owned a 66 Cherokee-6 260 N3665W Several years ago. Loved that airplane! If you could get it in the door it would carry it.
If I remember correct, the useful was actually about 25 pounds more than the empty on this particular plane.
Great Bird!

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