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02-11-2006 03:41 PM  12 years agoPost 21
Heli-pres

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WOW!!!
Eurylokhos, dont you get tired of being idiot??

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02-11-2006 03:51 PM  12 years agoPost 22
medfoch

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To my understanding that just makes Raptors CHEAP.

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02-11-2006 03:58 PM  12 years agoPost 23
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It makes them like cockroaches,plentiful but not necessarily good.

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02-11-2006 04:39 PM  12 years agoPost 24
Eury

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It's amazing, Heli-pres, how the point continuosly sails clear over your head. As the 2 posters after you (who are clearly a little more intelligent than you) pointed out, I'm saying that Raptors are more plentiful and cheaper than the others.

If we review the 3 threads where you have replied to me, the first time I said I like other helis better than the Raptor, but if the people at the posters field fly Raptors, he should get a Raptor. You then dazzled the world with your intelligence and said that the Evo isn't better,missing the point entirely.

http://runryder.com/t226880p1/

The second thread, I said the raptor flies very nicely, just not as precisely as some others, but the support of Ace is of the lowest caliber possible, so other helis are better. You then blinded us with the brilliance of Szabo sure liking them.

http://runryder.com/t231824p1/

If you need me to spell it out for you (even though it was pretty damn clear in both examples above), here it is:
I DIDN'T SAID THE RAPTOR ISN'T GOOD, JUST THAT OTHERS ARE BETTER. If you read my posts, there are a number of places where I've told people to pick up a Raptor. I always say that they fly very well. My problem is with Ace. Get over it. I swear, Mark should institue an IQ test before allowing accounts to be made. You couldn't reason your way out of a paper bag.

So what exactly is your problem, is it that you don't like me saying that they fly well? Or do you expect me to kneel down and suck the almighty Raptor **** like you do? Cause it's not going to happen. Get over it, the Raptor is nearly a decade old with very few changes, naturally it's going to be surpassed by the newer designs. I fully expect that whenever TT gets off their collective asses and designs a new heli, instead of putting out a long boom with a gearing change, it will be the best plastic fantastic on the market until another manufacturer sees what TT put out, and improves on that. That's how things evolve and improve. I suppose you think that things don't improve, if that's the case, you really should be flying a DuBro Whirlybird, since the 30 years or so since it was put out couldn't have POSSIBLY seen any improvements in Heli technology.

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02-11-2006 04:53 PM  12 years agoPost 25
DS 8717

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What EURYLOKHOS means is,THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT OWN RAPTORS THAT ARE JUST LIKE YOU. You can take that however you like.

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02-11-2006 06:45 PM  12 years agoPost 26
Raffy

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Do you guys ever wonder how great Curtis Youngblood, Alan Szabo and Eric Larson fly their helis? Do you know what brand helis they fly?
Since when did you have the balls to say what brand is better than the other?
Maybe, you should focus at yourself and find out if you are technically good and a good pilot.

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02-11-2006 07:17 PM  12 years agoPost 27
Eury

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I think that anyone able to look and judge for themselves can say that one thing is better than another. I never claimed to be able to use the full capabilities of any of the helis on the market, quite far from it. However, I can certainly say that I like the design and flight characteristics of one over the other.

Can you honestly say that you can look at an X-Cell and a Raptor and not be able to tell that one is better engineered? If not, then how are you able to fly a heli at all, you must be blind.

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02-12-2006 03:05 AM  12 years agoPost 28
Raffy

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From my point of view they are well engineered! It is your personal taste that distort your true opinion.

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02-12-2006 03:18 AM  12 years agoPost 29
Eury

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Once again, no one ever said that they weren't all well engineered, just that some are better than others. Sure, a lot of guys with degrees built the Ford Explorer, but I'd say that the Porsche Cayenne is a better engineered vehicle. How can you possibly look at what's out there and not draw an opinion on what you think is best? Did you just flip a coin to end up with what you have? Or were you able to sack up and say, "Hey! I like this!" I find it difficult to believe that you accidentally ended up with the X-Cells you have listed in your profile. SUrely you can look at them and see that they are a higher quality machine than your Raptor. I just sold a Raptor 90, and now have a Freya X-Spec, and I can tell you that the X-Spec is much much nicer machine than the Raptor, and not as nice as the X-Cell Gas Graphite I had before that.

An opinion is just that, personal taste. It's impossible for personal tastes to distort opinion, seeing how they are exactly the same thing.

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02-12-2006 08:52 AM  12 years agoPost 30
Temjin

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Did I say more users equals better? I simply stated due to larger user base you will see a lot more question poping up.



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02-12-2006 09:23 AM  12 years agoPost 31
signwiz

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MA Stratus is Best
Straight, I have X-spec and Evo AWESOME helicopters, But the Stratus is out own it s own......No competiton !!! I do love the tracking of the X-spec n EVO90 but the unchanging balance on the Stratus, The X-pec is incredibly precise but it seems to wear much quicker in many areas over the Stratus and the parts aren't that much cheaper......barring crashes....I gotta pic the MA

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02-12-2006 01:49 PM  12 years agoPost 32
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Did I say more users equals better? I simply stated due to larger user base you will see a lot more question poping up.
And where did you get this bit of information? Was there a survey taken on how many people own each brand of heli? there is probably way more xcells than raptors because they have been out much,much, longer. I own 2 xcells and 0 raptors.
Then again this is just speculation on my part,just like your larger raptor base speculation. What amazes me is the fact you raptor owners think you have the best helicopter available, you are in a sad little world of your own. Would you mind pointing to the data proving Raptor has the largest user base. Oh i see, you are just talking out you ass just like all the other Raptor owners,no facts. The way i see there too many raptors recomended to newbees by ill informed newish pilots that dont even know there are far better helis to learn on than a raptor. There are cheaper and there better flying heli's to learn on than raptor.

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02-12-2006 04:28 PM  12 years agoPost 33
spruce

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What amazes me is the fact you raptor owners think you have the best helicopter available
the same can be said of the hiroblow owners.

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02-12-2006 09:44 PM  12 years agoPost 34
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How many world championships has Raptor won? How many 3D contests has Raptor won. I think you'll find Xcell and Hirobo has won quite a few.

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02-12-2006 09:56 PM  12 years agoPost 35
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Not one single mention of an Avant, thats where my money is.

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02-12-2006 10:00 PM  12 years agoPost 36
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STRATUS and AVANT,Top of the line.

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02-12-2006 10:09 PM  12 years agoPost 37
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And top dollar...Clearly the Stratus and Avant are the best flying 90s.The raptor 90/evo 90 are not too far behind and both have their place.If all four were lined up,the one with the best pilot would win.You can watch the contest/FF DVDs and see that all are perfectly able to wring it out in any trick sequence with good hands on the sticks.This is silly......

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02-12-2006 10:22 PM  12 years agoPost 38
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"and top dollar"

Yes the avant and stratus are more, but you are talking top of the line. To spend $3500 on a top of the line heli is cheap to someone used to spending $6K plus on 40% airplanes. You want top of the line stuff, you got to pay for it. It all comes down to what a person wants to spend. In the end though, its the guy behind the sticks that makes it go.

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02-12-2006 10:38 PM  12 years agoPost 39
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I'm not saying they are not worth every penny.I would love to own the one in your gallery.......Lets take me for example.I flew other people's Furys.They are great but,I don't need a $3500 Fury to practice a demo flight.I can get all my work in on a $1500 R50 package,and if and when I ball it into oblivion it will cost $150 instead of $500.So it has it's place.I have no delusions that my R50 is anywhere near the quality.We have some local guys who tear it up with R50s and Evo50s and just can't justify dumping the extra money for the Nth degree of smoothness.I guess I fall in there,too.The thing I most like with the R50 is how fast they build and repair,how easy it is to get parts,how cheap parts are,and I think it flys pretty good with minimal upgrades.

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02-12-2006 11:08 PM  12 years agoPost 40
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Al I hear ya, I too like the 50 size helis, but after flying 40% airplanes forever, a 50 just seems small, heck event the 90s seem small to me. Bigger flys better, so thats why I fly 90s. The plastic helis fly great, but I like the finesse that a decked out heli aka avant or stratus provides me. I loved my tempest, but IMO they are a pain to work on, and the avant is simple.

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