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02-07-2006 01:00 AM  12 years agoPost 1
Timbers

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Any reasons not to spend $80 on a Quick UK auto-hub? I am going to purchase two of them tomorrow, one for me and one for a friend of mine. Already had one casulty due to a locked auto-hub in the air, plus the heli runs terrible, especially during autos. I've had enough and am ready to buy some Quick UK ones. I read a post about the Quick ones locking up as well, but it sounds like this was just a select few people. Anyone else experience problems?

Can't believe I have to spend $80 to fix something Ace/TT should be correcting, but hey what are you gonna do????

Thanks for the feedback.

...Tim

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02-07-2006 03:03 AM  12 years agoPost 2
BlakeMcBrayer

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I have heard nothing but good things about them. Mine is doing AWSOME with no lock ups and is a world smoother and spins so much freely than the TT units.

There was a post about one unit locking up. Bud at QUK, replaced it right away. I think it turned out to be a machining error on the shaft collar that was leading to the lockup and not a problem with the one-way bearing.

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02-07-2006 03:26 AM  12 years agoPost 3
George Matthews

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The Quick UK auto hub is the best improvement you can make to a raptor. The TT auto hub is the weakest link in the whole system and Quick UK has done all raptor 60-90 owners a great service by coming out with there own auto hub. My Quick UK auto hub is going strong and like Blake said it is much more smooth and free running.
Just do it! You will be glad you did.

George Matthews

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02-07-2006 03:52 AM  12 years agoPost 4
Heli-pres

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Auto Hub
You will love the Quick UK auto hub. My friend has the Avant and his auto hub spins very nicely and the Quick UK auto hub spins every bit as well. Your autos will improve also. It is worth every penny.
JOHN

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02-07-2006 06:08 AM  12 years agoPost 5
Chrisp

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I agree with the other guys, a vast improvement and it's getting better with every flight, it is very smooth and feels like there is more reserve at the bottom of the auto. You won't regret it

Chrisp

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02-07-2006 10:30 AM  12 years agoPost 6
damaen

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Already had one casulty due to a locked auto-hub in the air
What was that?

Henrik

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02-07-2006 10:47 AM  12 years agoPost 7
lozza6

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the 50 locks up too... are there any solutions for that one?

also, if id does lock up.. i dont see why you would crash? It just means that in autos.. the clutch bell is driven too? maybe just a bit more drag, but shouldnt be a serious problem should it?

Loz

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02-07-2006 11:04 AM  12 years agoPost 8
Saint728

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It's not a problem unless your trying to do an auto. Mine doesn't lock up anymore, because I have a CNC alloy secondary gear.

Take Care,
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02-07-2006 12:59 PM  12 years agoPost 9
MikeSherman

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What...didn't believe me, Tim!!??


Unacceptable.

-coach

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02-07-2006 01:11 PM  12 years agoPost 10
Itsindilas

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Hello Patrick,

Where did you find these nie alloy gears?

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02-07-2006 01:50 PM  12 years agoPost 11
HUTCH964

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Taylor,Texas 76574 local airport T74

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Quick UK Auto Hub.
I have had mine in since testing them in the first few months before they were released and have not see any problems with it & the auto's are so much smoother now!!


*****

Tim

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02-07-2006 06:36 PM  12 years agoPost 12
Yugdab

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Is it me, are people being fussy or critical or has Thuder T missed some golden oppotunities? Don't get me wrong this is not a knock at them in anyway but you chaps are reporting that you needed to change a part to the heli for it to fly better. Some people have spent a small fortune on upgrades that they felt necessary to make their heli fly the way they want it to.
There are lots of threads where people suggest an immediate upgrade to some parts ignoring the stock ones.
You would think that the time the Rappy has been available they would have rolled all of your comments up into making what would surely be the best ever heli. Or at least offering kits with these upgraded parts. It seems the upgrade market is as big as the new kit market. They ought to consider making the parts themselves.
I don't care about how much it would cost, that part is not as important as opening the box and not being disappointed in anyway.

If things don't change... they'll stay as they are!

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02-07-2006 07:55 PM  12 years agoPost 13
Wa11banger

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I am one of the original testers of the QUK autohub as well, my experience has covered the gammit, as I have even impact tested the units lol. The TT Autohub left alot to be desired as there are many many complaints about lockups, etc, etc. There are more cures available that only work for some and not others that its hard to keep track of them all on what works and what doesn't. Enter the QUK autohub, no maintenance, smoother action (although it starts out stiff), and larger surface and bearings riding on them. After only a few flights it spins as freely as my Hirobo units, which in turn carries into your Auto's leaving more headroom at the bottom, I don't care who says what about that, less friction means less loss FACT! Can the flyer still bung up the auto? yes.. but he wont have any extra contribution from the airframe to do it!

Now some have said they have never had a problem with the TT Autohub, I even have one of those, it runs smooth as glass.. But 1 out of 7 total is not great odds, and I will still bet that it will fail in a locked up condition. I believe the QUK autohub is one of those must have additions/upgrades to the Raptor 90 series. Just because it looks like bling (it is the hottest looking autohub out there) shouldn't detract that it is a very functional upgrade. We all have our bling-itis. This is just a great sexy looking piece of must have upgrade to fully enjoy your big block Rappy.

It will allow you to auto in confidence, not wonder if your hub is locked up or not when you pull that switch. For an inexperienced auto'er that could be detrimental, because even though some would have you believe an auto is the same with our without the hub locked, if that were true why would you have one? Why would you worry about unlocking it? Because it drags down HS

***EDIT***
Oh, and to answer your question. Yes, TT did miss a golden opportunity and the whole boat on this one. It has been a complaint for the models lifespan. Thanks to QUK for responding to us.

Rick

Proud member of the Quick UK, Duralite Flight Systems, V-Blade, & KBDD team

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02-07-2006 10:39 PM  12 years agoPost 14
steve9534

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Auto hub
Whether you need this depends a lot on what you're doing with the heli. If you're not doing many autos and/or flying it hard yours may either last forever, or alternately, not bother you all that much if it does lock up. I've been through about half a dozen (I lost count)of the stock auto hubs. They all eventually seem to fail locked up, most commonly after doing some tic-tocs. It really does come out of the sky like a brick when doing inverted autos with the auto bearing locked up, and unfortunately, that's usually the first warning that there's a problem. The (stock) auto hub I have now is working pretty smooth, but it's just a question of time. The stockers all seem to start out pretty stiff when new, and then loosen up after some use before finally locking up. I did modify a Hirobo auto hub to work and it was definitely smoother and lasted longer, but after a time it would booger up the soft main shaft and no longer work well. I also tried it with the hardened main shaft, and that was too hard for the clutch to grab and would slip. When mine fails again, I plan to try the Quick UK upgrade. steve.

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02-07-2006 10:54 PM  12 years agoPost 15
A. Bundy

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They all eventually seem to fail locked up, most commonly after doing some tic-tocs. It really does come out of the sky like a brick when doing inverted autos with the auto bearing locked up, and unfortunately, that's usually the first warning that there's a problem.
Yup.Every time you enter an inverted auto you are listening for the lock up engine sound.If I am going to do those autos,I avoid tic tocs that flight and/or land and check that the hub is free before starting aerobatic autos.

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02-07-2006 11:05 PM  12 years agoPost 16
SPB

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Well I am that unlucky guy with all the problems with the QUK autohub. Budd's support of course was excelent and I believe that it was my bad luck and not a defective product. Otherwise as with all new products $hit happens.

I bought two units and initially I had problem with the cores with both of them. The internal diameter was slightly smaller and the shaft was not fitting. Budd replaced them both w/out second question.

One of them auto hubs locked after only 6 flights. I send it back and as Budd told me it was repaired with a new one way bearing and it's on the way back home. It's only a matter of frustration and delay with post expenses to UK.

The second one is very smooth and definetelly has a bigger reserve in the end of the auto from the stock one.


Sotiris
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02-07-2006 11:56 PM  12 years agoPost 17
steve9534

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Bundy
So far I've not planted the thing because of this, but it does make the autos more interesting. I even practiced doing some inverted autos with it locked up the last time. You can still do them, but there's no reserve and I have to pull out higher in order to get it stopped before touchdown. If the Quick UK unit holds up, it will be a definite advance over the stocker. steve.

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02-08-2006 02:18 AM  12 years agoPost 18
Timbers

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Yah
Thanks for all the comments.

I just ordered two of them from Ricks. I will try them out and after beating the living hell out of my Raptor, if I land and its not locked up I will come on here and give all the kudos known to man to Quick UK.

I will also box up my TT hub and the bill for the Quick UK one and sent it right back to Thunder Tiger and kindly thank them for not doing anything to remedy the situation regarding their wonderful poorly engineered auto hub product!

...tim

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02-08-2006 03:09 AM  12 years agoPost 19
BlakeMcBrayer

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You might as well go ahead and leave the kudos now, since they are gonna earn it.

LOL on sending the stuff to TT. I should do the same!

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02-14-2006 09:41 PM  12 years agoPost 20
Timbers

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Yep it's all good
The Quick UK auto-hub is all good! I installed it this weekend. No more locking up, and a lot more head-speed at the bottom of autos! If you have a locking hub, throw it out and buy a Quick UK one thats all I have to say.

Another cool thing I didn't know about it, is that it is actually designed to pinch or sandwich the main gear between two plates on the hub, thus allowing the main gear to have a much more solid and flat mount to the hub. The stock hub uses four screws, which could pull down unevenly on the main gear causing warpage, etc.

Great unit!

...Tim

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