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02-06-2006 09:20 PM  12 years agoPost 1
u.k. sailor

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can somebody tell me if the 14MZ has mode assignability within the software like the JR9X and Futaba 9C do?

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02-06-2006 10:36 PM  12 years agoPost 2
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You just tell it how you want it to work and it just does it.

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02-06-2006 10:54 PM  12 years agoPost 3
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So does the 14 have a menu to select each one of the four moes?

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02-07-2006 05:10 AM  12 years agoPost 4
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what do you mean modes? like modes where the elevator/aileron are on different sticks? You can program any stick/knob/slider/switch for any purpose, so i suppose you could simply revere the sticks electronically, and then move them over. I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the one you want straight off the bat.

Rhett..... I can't fly, but the Profi sure can.

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02-07-2006 06:13 AM  12 years agoPost 5
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there are four different possible stick configurations, that are modes 1-4
because i am thinking of changing modes.

i currently fly mode 1 and more people locally fly mode 2, if i want to sell a transmitter it is easier to do so if it is mode 2. I see no reason now to buy any transmitter that doesn't offer the option, let alone one of this cost, if the 9 channel radios give this facility. i am not sure that if you reasign the channels whether all the mixing options would need reasigning rather than being set up ready for the configuration.
I have borrowed a JR 9X and it would be a simple press a few buttons and change the springs to convert to any mode you choose

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02-07-2006 11:21 AM  12 years agoPost 6
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Not a mode change per se, but the 14MZ lets you assign ANY function to ANY stick or switch if you're not happy with the native mode of the Tx. Just set up one model to the particular 'mode' you want using this method and use it as a template to copy to any future model setups you create.

I'm not sure about the throttle ratchet though, though ISTR that this is easily changed.

You can even have the strange 'mode' where you pull back for full throttle and duplicate this to all future models

Colin

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02-07-2006 03:36 PM  12 years agoPost 7
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Unfortunately, it is not as simple as that. 14MZ mode can not be exhanged as simple as moving the rachet. Several friends of mine tried it and it did not work that simple. They had to sent the remote to Futaba for "recalibration."

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02-07-2006 04:58 PM  12 years agoPost 8
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Any radio I know has to be sent in to support to have recalibrated for a mode (stick) change. Sure you can reassign and move things around on the 14MZ, but you don't have direct access to the calibration (support) screens.

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02-07-2006 06:18 PM  12 years agoPost 9
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thats what i was worried about. i'm sure that they could have this available within the radio only requiring selection in the appropriate menu. As there are four modes and most of us will sell on radios we no longer use it seems a bit stupid IMO to have so many facilities but not enable us to make the decision as to which mode it is. No doubt from their point of view it's best to take the money for doing this.
A friend of mine is doing my WC2 this weekend but doesn't know how to do the 10X and i guess in time somebody will post how to change the 14 MZ.

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02-07-2006 08:46 PM  12 years agoPost 10
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They won't take any money if you're under warranty. Seems fair to me!

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02-07-2006 09:20 PM  12 years agoPost 11
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i am nearly certain that within the UK at least if you buy a product that is correct as bought, I.E. IF IT says it's a mode 1 transmiter and it is then, then a change such as this would not be done under warranty and that ignors what i am saying about this any way. If the radio is warranted for 12 months and i wish to sell it after this time to a person who hasn't seen the light and for some strange reason wishes to fly some mode other than the one i do, it will cost to make the change. IMO if the 9 channel radio's and the german made radios have the facility why doesn't this all singing dancing piece of kit do the same?
to me the ability to change the mode of a radio increases the ability to sell it. the easier it is to sell the greater it's resale value, and the better value it is in terms of buying it in the first place.
If I am the only one to see the light and fly mode one then every time i buy a radio it either costs to change it or it's so much junk neither of which is very appealing to me.

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02-07-2006 09:28 PM  12 years agoPost 12
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why doesn't this all singing dancing piece of kit do the same?
SIMPLE, because Futaba didn't want to provide this feature!!!

Seems to me you're creating a problem for yourself. Yes it would be nice to have access to the support screens/menus on any radio. However most radios are sold because they can be used to control R/C models and equipment, not because they are simple to convert from one mode to another. Be realistic, you want a feature that most vendors don't provide, why is that a problem of one product?

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02-07-2006 09:35 PM  12 years agoPost 13
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not true as the FC28 MC24 JR 9X and i believe 9C all have this ability

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02-07-2006 09:40 PM  12 years agoPost 14
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I know the 9C is just like any other Futaba radio ... you must send it in to get it done. It does have a nice a switch in software, but hardware must be serviced.

Again, this is something Futaba chose not to give access to users ... it's not a problem in any way with the radio. If that is enough for you to miss-out on the greatest radio ever, hey, your loss. I love my 14MZs!

So to answer your original question, YES, the 14MZ does provide mode assignability via software. You still need to perform the hardware changes which you're free to attempt. However, if in that process the radio stops working, or if it requires recalibration you'll need to send it in for tech support.

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07-06-2006 10:33 AM  11 years agoPost 15
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I changed my 14MZ from mode 1 to mode 2 it is not very hard at all, you need to take the base plate off and the 5 screws in the antenna socket, then take the two switch blocks out. There are two metal brackets that the switch block screws go into, they need to come off then you can remove the slide trims from each side. then you remove the plug on the stick unit and take out the 4 screws holding it in, then its a matter of swaping the whole stick unit over, don't try and jerk around with springs and tensioners just swap the whole stick over, it may take you 45mins to do it but if you have a good mat down and a clean work bench you should have no trouble.
The rest of the mode change is simple programing of the sticks, and if you can't handle that you should get a new hobby.
There is no need for recalibrating or any of that rubbish and no need to send it anywhere, if you take it to a shop to get it sent away they will just do it out the back of the shop and charge you as if it went half way across the universe to get serviced by some alien electronic guru.

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07-06-2006 12:47 PM  11 years agoPost 16
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RCHelisNZ,
Are you sure you don't need to recalibrate? Given that the elevator stick travels a different amount to the pitch stick I would have thought that was required? It certainly was for the 9Z.

When you say programming of the sticks, you just mean in the 'Function' menu eh? Assigning the stick control to a function?

So when you create a new model on your TX, it defaults back to Mode One and you go and manually reassign back to Mode Two operation?

Si

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07-11-2006 11:47 AM  11 years agoPost 17
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Calibration of 14MZ after mode change
Hi Simon, have sent you the software so you know but for everyone else if you do a mode change you can remove the stops on the throttle stick and you will find you will have th 100% travel you need, but it is good to update the software so you can default everything to the right mode and not have to reasign everything everytime you add a new modle, the software also lets you pick if you want your radio to be plane or heli by default, it is easy enough to do but unless your up to play with computers etc best you send your radio away.

Kevin

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07-11-2006 03:54 PM  11 years agoPost 18
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yes ,if you remove the stops you have 100% but the stick have a little unused travel equal to stops. if you don't recalibrate you don't use full travel of stick.which kind of software do you use?
regards mirco

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07-11-2006 08:09 PM  11 years agoPost 19
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I have the Futaba T14mzUtility.exe file

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07-11-2006 08:59 PM  11 years agoPost 20
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is big?

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