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02-06-2006 03:30 PM  12 years agoPost 1
xcellgasman101

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Ok guy's Here is a 4 min. video that I shot Sunday evening about 5:00pm with winds 20 gusting to 25, and the camera person first time to run the camera mount,, I did this at home, We had 2 guy's looking for traffic, and trying to be as safe as possible, There is not post stablizing, just raw video from my camera,
Camera is a Panasonic 120 3-ccd X.5 wide angel lens
Heli is a Xcell SE 1005 gasser, with a Broadcast 360 mount with the New Mark IV gimble, with gryo's on tilt, and roll, not pan, We did some zoom to see just how smooth the heli is, and yes there is some viberation when we zoom in but not to bad,, I know that this is not perfectly smooth video, but in 20mph gusting to 25mph, I thought is was pretty smooth,, Hope you enjoy,, XGM/XGW

You might have to copy and past in your web browser,, Thanks XGM/XGW

mms://66.235.209.243/MarkIVbroadcast360Mount-1.WMV

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com

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02-06-2006 03:44 PM  12 years agoPost 2
Louisiana Helicam

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It's asking for a username and password.

www.louisianahelicam.com

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02-06-2006 03:46 PM  12 years agoPost 3
xcellgasman101

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??? Well it is working for me, I'll have to call Jody and ask what is going on, this is the same way I have posted befor,, XGM

John Crotts
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02-06-2006 03:55 PM  12 years agoPost 4
xcellgasman101

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You can go to my web site and watch it,,
http://www.soonerhelicamproductions.com
It is at the bottom of the first page, MarkIV Broadcast 360 mount video.. Hope this helps.. XGM

John Crotts
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02-06-2006 04:18 PM  12 years agoPost 5
wesb1999

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Good job John! You're a few months ahead of me and I hope to be doing as good soon - U da MAN!.

How did you control the zoom? Servos on the camera on the camera remote?
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Wes

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02-06-2006 04:23 PM  12 years agoPost 6
Smithprod

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So, John, it's okay for you to fly in a neighborhood over an intersection in an uncontrolled enviroment? At about thirty seconds in you can see a car drive directly under your chopper. You've been trying aerial video for what, a couple of months now? That's very little experience. The following is what you wrote on the Airfoil bashing thread. I don't want to sound like a jerk, I just want to understand your reasoning.

Brad

"I think I read somewhere on the RCAPA fourm about NEVER flying over people or traffic, It is one of there bylaws, or rules or something like that,, So I guess that you can for see the future and tell just when a heli is going to give it up. Good for you.. Good luck with your new mount,, XGM"

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02-06-2006 05:37 PM  12 years agoPost 7
HeliCamSolutions

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It's asking for a username and password.
If it is asking for username and password you are leaving the https://rc.runryder.com/ in the url.

Try thismms://66.235.209.243/MarkIVbroadcast360Mount-1.WMV

Jody

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02-06-2006 06:00 PM  12 years agoPost 8
aambrose

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I have a feeling all of this judgment about what is safe and what isn't is going to make some people think twice before they share any of their video....not good IMO.

I agree that we should all keep safety in mind and make it a priority, but obviously there are differing opinions on safety.

I foresee a lot of aerial video shot in wide-open fields!
(not that that's bad )


Tony

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02-06-2006 06:17 PM  12 years agoPost 9
cainebean

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still
I still can't get the video after Jody posted the link???? Really, I can't ever get anything off that server. Would love to see the video though.

Bean

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02-06-2006 06:24 PM  12 years agoPost 10
HeliCamSolutions

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Cain, if you are using a personal firewall it will more than likely block the video from playing.

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02-06-2006 07:04 PM  12 years agoPost 11
Louisiana Helicam

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I tried it both at work and at home (during lunch) and it still asks for a username and password. This is without "http://"; in the address bar.

www.louisianahelicam.com

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02-06-2006 07:22 PM  12 years agoPost 12
CrashTestDummy

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REposted
Reposted MarkIVbroadcast360Mount-1.WMV downloadable.

Sorry John, hope you don't mind. If you do, I'll take it down. I have problems with streaming sometimes and it can be frustrating.

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02-06-2006 07:25 PM  12 years agoPost 13
Louisiana Helicam

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That works, thank you sir!

www.louisianahelicam.com

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02-06-2006 07:47 PM  12 years agoPost 14
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The big difference here is in the video's I shot all were paid professionals doing a job they understand with a pilot that they have worked with for 5 years that has never had a problem in any conditions.

That subdivision is at risk at all times but they have no idea. 20-25mph winds and you are flying over an intersection with cars around and passing through? The person that drove under GASSMAN has no idea the guy piloting and correct me if I'm wrong is the same guy at a flyin in TX put a blade on backwards?
You seem to love to BASH my company but as for safety only 1 of my 3 best pilots would have been flying there and only for a job. Your shooting a promo clip in a subdivision. We had the city close off the park for 2 hours and used trained professionals and we were unsafe and going to bring the FAA in? How about flying over traffic for no real reason other than you don't own a flying field. Think the FCC and FAA would wonder about that.

Guys fair is fair. Gassman and DJ were one of the first to jump on the AirFoil is unsafe wagon and now its ok to fly anywhere I guess for no real reason at all except to pump a product.

Just my personal opinion but you have posted video before from other flying sites why chose there?

John Ohnemus

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02-06-2006 07:49 PM  12 years agoPost 15
aambrose

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wont keep me from posting. I think this is a great thing! It will keep all of us thinking twice before taking a risk we may have otherwise done.
C'mon now. You know there's bound to be those who will point out safety issues about future video postings. The topic of safety is stirred up so to speak. That's not necessarily a bad thing in regards to safety, but it could mean that even a "safely shot" video might not get posted out of fear that it will get nit-picked to death!

For example DJ,
Those nice videos you shot while skimming over the rooftops in that neighborhood (housing development maybe?) looked a little risky to me in some clips. Were the homes occupied? If so, did you tell the occupants to stay inside while you were shooting? Even if they weren't occupied, bad things couldve happened in the event of a failure. Were the streets clear of all bystanders? Same goes for the clips shot over the dealerships -- a few of those looked a little risky to me. Were there people standing around? Traffic nearby? My point is, there is risk involved in most of the videos/stills we shoot. When we fire these things up, be it for a job or at the local club field, we are taking a risk.

What about those shots where the heli and a vehicle approach head on at high speeds that we all "ooh" and "ah" about? Failure in that situation could mean 20+ pounds of equipment comes crashing through the windshield, yet we eat those shots up! I can't remember if any of your videos included a shot like that - I'm speaking in general in this regard.

Now hold on! Don't get your shorts all bunched up just yet!

Granted, you were flying over houses and unoccupied vehicles (at the dealerships), but there were a few times that a failure couldve meant some property damage and possibly a crash into a street and/or vehicle - maybe even human injury - all safety issues nonetheless. He**, for that matter, the heli could've went out of control and nailed a bystander 100 feet away.

Even though you weren't flying inches from someone's head, you were putting other people's property (and maybe even other people) at risk in one way or another. Who knows, maybe the white collar guys at the FAA would be frowning upon this type of flying too. I'm smart enough to realize there's a difference between houses, cars, and humans so don't even begin to rag on me about that. I'm also guessing most of us, at one point or another, have put our helis in a "less than ideal" situation then later said, "Wow, that was kinda risky! I need to re-think that.".

Don't get me wrong - I'm not pointing my finger at anyone, be it John O., John C., Jody, Brad, Mark, DJ, or anyone else who has posted their stuff on RR. I thoroughly enjoy viewing EVERYONE'S work here and exchanging ideas and concepts! I'm not one to nit-pick, stir up s**t, or throw stones. If anyone wants to do that to me, knock yourself out! I'm just saying that if you're going to point out someone's disregard for safety, be prepared to be critiqued yourself on any level of safety. I think most, if not all of us, live in glass houses.

My 23¢ worth.


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02-06-2006 07:58 PM  12 years agoPost 16
xcellgasman101

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[quoteSo, John, it's okay for you to fly in a neighborhood over an intersection in an uncontrolled enviroment?]
Brad, If you will go back and read my post, We had 2 people directing traffic, Yes that one guy did go when asked to stop, Did we take all percaution,, Yes,, I was aware of the guy that was comming,, I really thought that you were a pertty good guy, but after your post here, I would have to ask you not to post on my topic's agian,, You say that I have been doing AP for a couple of months,, I have been flyin RC for 27 years now,, And Heli's for about 7, Like I said we did have people out there stopping traffic, But this one guy didn't want to stop, So Yes it was in a controlled enviroment, and I was 100' above the car when he came thru,, I could have easly romoved the car in the video, and thought about that, but I didn't and for several reasons.. Again,, If you don't have something consturtive to say, then Please leave my post alone,, I have not attacked you personally at any time,, You are just pived about Airfoil's topic,, You fly Airfoil's product, I'll make you a deal,, I wont post negitively on an Airfoils topic, and Please you do the same on mine, I really wished we could be friends, We live so close to each other, and I hoped that one day in the near future, We might be able to help each other out,,


Wes, I have Gentles LED to control Zoom and start and stop, Really works great,, Just let them know what remote it is and they can build a system that is PLUG AND PLAY,,,


CrashTestDummy, You are more than welcome to post anything at any time on one of my topic's,, Thanks I hope that everyone can watch the video, Its nothing special, but to me to get this smooth video after months of trying to get my heli smoothed out, I did a back flip,

Again,, I will agree that all this bickering back and forth is getting nowhere,, I will in the future keep my post to just consturctive post from now on,,
Brad, I hope that we can still be friends,, I really do,, XGM

John Crotts
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02-06-2006 08:18 PM  12 years agoPost 17
aambrose

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I really thought that you were a pertty good guy, but after your post here, I would have to ask you not to post on my topic's agian

Again,, If you don't have something consturtive to say, then Please leave my post alone

CrashTestDummy, You are more than welcome to post anything at any time on one of my topic's
Since when does the topic originator have the right to determine who can and can't post in their topics? This confused the crap out of me! I thought the moderator(s) only had those kind of rights.

Forum = A public meeting place for open discussion.


Tony

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02-06-2006 08:29 PM  12 years agoPost 18
xcellgasman101

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Tony I only asked,,, Man I can see why many people don't wont to get into this kind of fourm,, Please READ my post agian,, XGM

John Crotts
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02-06-2006 09:59 PM  12 years agoPost 19
Smithprod

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John, take it easy! Man, everyone's freaking out on here! I said I was asking for your reasoning on the situation, not attacking you. I was just making a point that you made some commetns on John, yet someone could do the same to you. I'm not trying to make an enemy and I certainly look forward to meeting you down the road.

I apologize if you feel like I attacked you or questioned your flying ability, because I didn't mean either!

Brad

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02-06-2006 10:14 PM  12 years agoPost 20
aambrose

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Yeah! Major freaking out! How many lurkers out there are laughin' their butts off?!

I just found it kind of odd that someone was asking others not to post in their topics. Never read that before in any other posts.

John C., no hard feelings here man.


Tony

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