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02-06-2006 01:57 PM  12 years agoPost 1
Christaneagle

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It went like this. My first attempt to FF never got past the first turn. It turned nose in and the heli banked hard right and I froze and watched it hit. My friend helped me put it back together. The next day another friend did some fine tuning and after landing and about to take off again the gyro quit. Have you ever seen a gyro fail he had not, must have been the crash. It did not hit that hard breaking the main blades and the landing skid (It hit sideways).

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02-06-2006 02:08 PM  12 years agoPost 2
Eury

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Sorry, that sucks. On the other hand, it's kind of a good thing to get the first crash out of the way so you won't be scared of it happening. I know that prior to my first crash, I was always thinking about it, and once it happened and I saw that it wasn't that bad, I stopped thinking about it and really progressed.

Also, you need to be very thorough in checking your equipment out after a crash. Sounds like the gyro got damaged, perhaps a more thorough checkout while rebuilding would have prevented the second one. If I have a bad crash (much beyond broken blades and boom) I will send my gyro and receiver in to have them checked out.

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02-06-2006 04:39 PM  12 years agoPost 3
Red9301

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Sounds completely identical to my first crash. Hover, FF, right turn, shat meself and in she went

Dont worry about it, with flight, comes ground; crashing is part of the sport. Now I look at it like a technical challenge. You'll grow to love it (although your bank manager wont).

Learn all orientations in a hover before moving forward. Its really does make a huge difference in both confidence and ability. Worth the time input and effort.

Making crashing an art form...

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02-06-2006 05:53 PM  12 years agoPost 4
GScott

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I agree with Red 100%. Learn all your hovering orientations first. I tried FF on the sim a few months ago and couldn't do it. I've been working on my side hovering extensively for the last few months. I then started doing what I call 1/2 figure 8's with my T-Rex. Last night was the first time in awhile that I've had time to use the sim and all I can say is wow. I was able to do full figure 8's with no problems. I crashed a few times when I got a little to close the the ground but I was amazed at the difference my hovering practice made. I was no longer afraid or freaked out when the heli was sideways. Now that the weather has gotten bad again I'll be spending alot of time on the sim and hopefully being doing figure 8's with my Sceadu and T-Rex in no time. Then's it on to nose-in. Not really looking forward to that one.

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02-06-2006 06:12 PM  12 years agoPost 5
Red9301

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Nose in is a funny one. I really struggled for flippin ages with it. I tried all sorts, stopping briefly during figure 8's, blind stick grabbing and hoping for the best, back to the training gear (and nearly taking my legs off in the process), trying to visualise actuallly being inside the heli and not outside, pushing toward the muffler when it was moving that way - you name it...

Then someone on RR (cant rem who, but thanks) told me to simply push the stick in the direction that the rotor disc tilts.

So, if the heli wants to tilt to YOUR right when nose in, the rotor disc tilts down to the right so push the stick right and it'll correct it. After about 10 minutes on the sim, my brain just went 'click' and that was that, nose in sorted.

However I then lost the ability to hover side on for some reason. Anyways, after much sim time due to heli down time and bad weather when i did get time off work, I was forced to sim it up like crazy. I can now hover in any orientation and circuits are dead easy, although really slow hovering pirouettes still make me sweat lol!

Getting there, but cant stress that in retrospect i would never have attempted FF untill I had nose/side and tail in sorted, and that attitude probably would have saved me about 200 smackers.

Waffling now.

Red

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02-06-2006 06:31 PM  12 years agoPost 6
achtung6

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Red,

This is a very good tip. Another way to look at it when the heli faces you would be to "turn into it". If it's facing you and moving to your right, you push the stick to your right.

The whole "turn into it" idea came from flying micro electrics inside the house. When you saw the heli flying towards the garbage can while nose in, you turned into the "crash" and you did not hit it!

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02-06-2006 07:00 PM  12 years agoPost 7
Red9301

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Ive found the original thread

http://www.runryder.com/t209740p1/?highlight=Red9301

Big thanks to jaseyshef, baddog and MicroDOC. Top tip.

Making crashing an art form...

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02-06-2006 07:16 PM  12 years agoPost 8
webbhost

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main thing about crashing is running upto it quick enough and cutting the engine (if you dont have enough time to switch it off)

meh

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02-07-2006 01:33 PM  12 years agoPost 9
Christaneagle

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Hello Chickenx5, My friend let me use his reflex sim. My computer must not have enough memory because my screen was half white. I had several problems sometimes while hovering it would reset itself. When I crashed it took forever to reset. I lost interest and gave it back. Also I have been flying R/C airplanes for ten years and while on the sim. flying airplanes it was not even close to the real thing.

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