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02-07-2006 01:17 AM  12 years agoPost 41
spaceman spiff

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A solution?

Prozac bomb.

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02-14-2006 10:15 AM  12 years agoPost 42
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http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums...ic/t=32096.html


looks like the syrians are about to start selling oil for euros as well.

Looks like some middle east countries are working together to help move the sale of oil into other currancies apart from the dollar which in turn will reduce the US ability to use cheap credit etc and carry out foreign policy as the US would wish.

Shows that you could posiibly stuff a bigger Foe without declaring war

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02-14-2006 10:43 AM  12 years agoPost 43
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okay my last comment on this thread

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02-14-2006 01:54 PM  12 years agoPost 44
Dan C

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what do you expect from us pinky commie liberals so and so's we allways lie

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02-14-2006 03:50 PM  12 years agoPost 45
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Iran seems to be more of the problem, never iraq. But, now we are over extended in Iraq, and do not have the means to bomb, fight and rebuild Iran as well.

Republican, War Mongering, Red-Necks, make me sick. Are you really so arrogant to think that your point of view should be shared by the whole world? Get the heck out of the middle east, Take charge of THIS country, and yes, if you want to fund Israel that is probably the only sane option.

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02-14-2006 04:00 PM  12 years agoPost 46
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yea, but the only reason we can't take care of Iran right now is because Iraq is trading on the euro so we have to bomb them again to get it back. : (thats a hint Dan, think about it) (if it is so important to be trading in US$ why not in Iraq?)

.. and all this yapping about not having the means to bomb iran from some lefty warmonger trying to start annother war/occupation makes me sick!!!

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02-14-2006 04:39 PM  12 years agoPost 47
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your last statement spaceman makes no sense

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02-14-2006 04:48 PM  12 years agoPost 48
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Thats funny, seems to me the FIRST sentence is the one that makes no sense..

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02-14-2006 06:03 PM  12 years agoPost 49
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My suggestion?......
GIVE them one or two USA nukes.
So, they might just use use it, or "allow" it to fall in terrorist hands, who will use it, and maybe 20 000 people will die.

PRESTO !!!, there's your excuse to put towelheads on the endangered species list.

Life's all about sacrifices, some really meaningless at that.

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02-14-2006 06:04 PM  12 years agoPost 50
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My Suggestion...

Keep drawing cartoons of Muhammad, they will destroy themselves



Go Fly, Have Fun!!
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02-14-2006 08:15 PM  12 years agoPost 51
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MUSLIM OUTRAGE, OK, LET'S DO A LITTLE HISTORICAL REVIEW, JUST A FEW LOWLIGHTS


* Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.

* A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.

* Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.

* Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.

* Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.

Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims .. no Muslim outrage ... but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.

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02-14-2006 08:29 PM  12 years agoPost 52
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I've been over to Tehran on numerous occasions for business. I have never understood the relationship between regular Iranians and their government. At the last election I was surprised to see that the hardliners were voted in again. I knew then that problems would arise with the west soner or later.

The problem with countries like Iran is that Religion is heavily intertwined with government. Most western societies have moved past this bloody phase in their history but these societies are just entering it.

There is no question that it would dstabilise the region for Iran to have a Nuclear weapon capability given the influence of extremist religious interests within the government. However these people are incredibly difficult to negotiate with (I gave up) and I fear that they will put themselves in an untenable situation which the international community will not be able to accept.

I do not know the right way forward, but I do think it will not be good for any of us, particularly the Iranian people for whom I have a great deal of time. This is a society with an extraordinary history of culture and influence which is repressed through an extremist minority.

I have no fear of Iran with Nuclear Weapons over any other Nation. I do have a major concern over any Religious Extremist group having access to those weapons, whether they be Church of England, catholic, Mormons, Muslims or whatever. They have a different agenda which is not rational for the majority.

Before the revolution, American goods were ubiquitously available in Iran, in fact there was a Cadillac assembly plant there, I hope that those good relations with Iran and the US return one day, but I don't think this will occur withut a lot of pain.

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02-14-2006 08:56 PM  12 years agoPost 53
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Mac_Man,

Muslim is a religeon stuck in the Middle Ages.
Even Christianity comes up short with a few answers re evolution.
Can't comment on the other mainstream religeons.

HOWEVER, any religeon that reckons it's ok to kill in the name of whatever god they hold dear, just don't have ANY right to be on this planet.

It's a huge pity that the simple folk in these backward muslim countries also have to suffer when some shaman/voodoo/priest/prophet piece of Shiite tries to impose their particular form of powerplay on all and sundry.

I realise it's very difficult for the average citizen in ANY country to take on the established status quo, however, sitting on a fence just sooo.... makes you a target, for both sides :-(

Sh%t happens, always has, always will.

What is my qualification for this diatribe ?

Well, I fought as an infantry asshole in some forgotten war.
We lost, the same %unts we fought against, are now running the country, poorly, I might add.
Every time before a big engagement our chaplains prayed, guess what, we won the battle, the politicians lost the war.
And some of my friends lost their lives.

Bottom line of all this?
If the good old US of A wants to nuke the oil guys back into the Stone Age, GO for it.
It will suit me, and most of the Western world.

Hey!, any of you guys read Nostradamus ?

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02-14-2006 08:59 PM  12 years agoPost 54
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Spot on Mac man.

Funny thing about the outrage is if there were no protests, the cartoons would have existed only in some small local paper to be seen only by a few and tossed into the trash without a second thought. because of the protests the pictures have been published world wide on the internet, seen by almost all of the world. Some are talking about putting them on tee shirts. The protests are a collosal failure, yet they keep doing it.

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02-14-2006 09:51 PM  12 years agoPost 55
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Good point.

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02-15-2006 05:29 AM  12 years agoPost 56
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About the protests..
It's alot like dealing with neglected children. They will do anything for attention, negative or otherwise.. I guess there just isn't a whole lot else to do in a desert..
JEFF

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02-15-2006 09:48 AM  12 years agoPost 57
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yea, but the only reason we can't take care of Iran right now is because Iraq is trading on the euro so we have to bomb them again to get it back. : (thats a hint Dan, think about it) (if it is so important to be trading in US$ why not in Iraq?)
either its gone straight over my head or you have missed the plot.

so showing how dense I am I will repeat it again

Iraq sold oil for euros while Saddam was in power he lost money for the first year or so then made a profit against the expectations of the money pundits. When he was asked to leave and a new management took over oil was changed back to being sold in dollars.
Iraq now sells oil in dollars and I don't expect to see a change under the current management.

But

Iran, Syria, Venseula and Russia and currently looking at trading in Euro's and Iran is the leader starting feb/March this year.


whats the problem for America. well the dollar is the dominant reserve currancy needed by the rest of the world to by oil. Its also has nothing backing it up apart from the demand from the rest of the world for the dollar to by oil.

If sale of oil for euro's becomes established it might mean something like this. The demand for the dollar will slow. the rest of the world may start to change dollars for euros etc and items of value. Imports to the US will be more expensive, the US may not be able to afford to carry out its foreign pollicy due to cost.
The dollar may be devalued and your way of life will be changed.

I have been in a country where the currancy was devalued one day a Cokes 20 negwee (I think thats how you sell it) the next its a couple of kwacha. Imagine whats that like when your wages don't do up as well

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02-15-2006 10:29 AM  12 years agoPost 58
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I've read through most of the posts and find something disturbing.

Most of you don’t know Islam (the religion/ way of life).

I may not have all the answers on hand, but why not ask me:
A formally suppressed “koolee” South African "towel head".

Did I get the derogatory names right?





I see plank flyers!!!

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02-15-2006 10:51 AM  12 years agoPost 59
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Geez Gadgets,
How can you be Indian and Arab at the same time? :-)

Maybe the meaningless violence is committed by a small minority, and maybe the Quran teaches love and compassion, but unfortunately the picture that the rest of decent society has of Muslims, is one of a masked asshole cutting the head off some tied-up helpless man.
And then you have the World Trade Centre, Bali bombs, etc, etc......

It doesn't help that it appears that the rest of the Arab/Muslim world is kind of sitting back, watching which way the tree falls, so to speak.

With the money, people, and contacts the Muslim countries have, they could have stopped all this crap long time ago.
They obviously don't want to.

'nuff said.

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02-15-2006 11:22 AM  12 years agoPost 60
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As the Prophet Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) was sent as a guidance and messenger to man kind, to follow Islam is to follow his direction completely. Even in the way of his dress. So if you Arabs towel head, I must be a towel head and my Prophet (PBUH) must be a towel head.

I can’t explain the beheading...
Explain prison torture and bombing of weddings?

Painting Islam in a bad light makes news so we see beheadings.

How many people around the world saw the tragic stampede at Hajj?


How many ever saw a documentary on what Hajj is about?


Decent society: Most of these poor countries that are hit have no access to view "decent society".

Admittedly many have absorbed there own non-Islamic culture into there way of lives into what is now there society. Should we judge them??

I can argue that drinking Alcohol etc is not a practice of "decent society".

Yes I believe that a more united Muslim world will cure many Muslim problems, but Western influence has destroyed this many years ago when the Caliphate was ended.
Are the Muslim leaders not playing by International laws and standards just like the rest?

Besides, would the west want a united Muslim World......?

Further. The issue of the cartoons will always be explosive.

From birth (practically) we are thought:
1st Love Allah (God)
2nd Love the Prophet (PBUH)
3rd Love your parents
Then family etc. (All man kind)

So any Muslim is defensive against attacks of our Prophet (PBUH).

Some are going to be riotous, but not all men are the same.





I see plank flyers!!!

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