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02-07-2006 04:09 PM  12 years agoPost 41
turboomni

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Why not get rid of the single conversion problem[it won't work anyway with the JR} and if on a budget get a HiTeck electron 6 Dual Conversion 6 channel JR shift for 50 bucks.??
It works fine on my Trex with no glitches,,

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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02-07-2006 04:58 PM  12 years agoPost 42
deekoi515

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Yeah I am probably going to get another reciever within the next week or two. (Just got my paycheck!! ) Budget wise I am just going for something under $100. I was thinking the JR r770 since i do have jr radio and now crystal.

There is still a chance that the align will work right? I mean with the Jr remote. I looked on the castle creation site and they do have the berg crystal and it is pretty cheap too. I just wanna know if it will work forsure before I commit to buying. Is this the right one? [url=http://www.castlecreations.com/products/berg_micro_crystals.html]
I know I can return but it just wouldn't be worth it so I want to just get it right the first time. Like I said before I still want the align receiver to work just so I have a back up and I wanted to put it on a glider or something.

Is the berg crystal negative? or positive? Since I have pos shift TX and neg RX what is the crystal suppose to be?

PS Thanks a lot for the help especially Jcopter!

~OCHC~ Never regret. If it's good, it's wonderful. If it's bad, it's experience

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02-07-2006 05:08 PM  12 years agoPost 43
willard

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NO NO NO

the align receiver is negative shift

Your JR transmitter is positive shift.

there is no crystal, or commbination of crystals that will EVER EVER make them work together

Get a new positive shift receiver with the manufacturers crystal on the channel your transmitter is on

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02-07-2006 05:46 PM  12 years agoPost 44
deekoi515

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O dam...
by the way i did say that the tx was positive and the align reciever (rx) was neg.

But thanks for the clear up... i guess i'll stop trying with this reciever... boo! waste of 20 bucks!

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02-07-2006 06:05 PM  12 years agoPost 45
turboomni

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Great now set it up right!!

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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02-07-2006 09:19 PM  12 years agoPost 46
DR YEN

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Arcadia, CA

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haha


SORRY ABOUT THAT "DEEK"

I bought the Align RC-RX6 receiver because I thought I would need a micro receiver, but I decided to sell it to "DEEK" when my FULL Sized 9CH Futaba RX fit just fine.

Hey, I'll buy it back from you. Maybe if I buy a single conversion crystal it'll work with my Futaba 9CHP?


So I assume that my Futaba TX is negative shift?


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02-07-2006 09:37 PM  12 years agoPost 47
Rennster

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Hawaii

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I have an ALIGN receiver lying around that I'd like to sell. My Futaba full size receiver that came withmy 7CHP fits on my TREX. Anyone?

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02-08-2006 04:22 AM  12 years agoPost 48
turboomni

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A single conversion RX is crap on any heli that costs more than a heli that came with one from the factory,,like the Blade CP.
Why on earth would you even consider one? The single conversion RX works Great on my Blade CP ,even when the channel Xtal was changed so I could use my computer radio. Would any of you ever consider taking a E Flight Blade CP single conversion 6 CH reciever and putting it in a NEW Trex?? Even if it was for free??
I don't think so,,,at least I would Not do so
It's your DOE

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02-08-2006 07:35 AM  12 years agoPost 49
DR YEN

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.. I am sorry to hear that.


DR YEN

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02-08-2006 08:55 PM  12 years agoPost 50
DR YEN

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Hey DEEK,

I know we have came to a conclusion that a Single Conversion RX sucks and should only be used in a Blade CP. (thanks turboomni)

BUT you know what I just realized?

I think you have your servos and esc plugged into your RX with the channel assignments for a Futaba TX. Remember how I told you the channel assignments before you bought your JR? That was for MY Futaba setup. Now that you decided to go with JR did you ever switch the channel assignments???


I believe the Radio Channel Assignments for Futaba and JR go like this:
Radio Channel Assignments

Function | Futaba | JR
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Aileron | 1 | 2
Elevator | 2 | 3
Throttle | 3 | 1
Rudder (tail) | 4 | 4
Gyro Gain | 5 | 5 (Gear) or 7 (Aux 2)
Pitch | 6 | 6 (Aux 1)
That could definitely be a cause of why the ESC isn't booting up after the first TWO beeps right??


For the JR transmitter your Throttle channel is one(1) rather than three(3)! This could be a possible cause right?? Anyone can back me up on this?


TRY THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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02-08-2006 09:27 PM  12 years agoPost 51
Rob_T

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Yup, those channel assignments look right for JR.

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02-08-2006 09:52 PM  12 years agoPost 52
turboomni

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[quote]I know we have came to a conclusion that a Single Conversion RX sucks and should only be used in a Blade CP. (thanks turboomni)


Single Conversion RX's don't suck on the blade and lots of park flyer planks and cars ,I'm just saying with all the money invested on high quality Lipos /gyro's etc a Dual Conversion is a must on a Trex is all.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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02-08-2006 10:55 PM  12 years agoPost 53
DR YEN

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Single Conversion RX's don't suck on the blade and lots of park flyer planks and cars
Right, DEEK already purchased a new JR r770 RX. We are just trying to get the Align RC-RX6 working so we could put it in a cheap park flyer or another hobby.

I'm just hoping to figure out the problem for people who do decide to use the Align RX and not to put it to waste.

Thanks,


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02-08-2006 11:21 PM  12 years agoPost 54
Rob_T

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Ironic that, the JR770 is single conversion, as is just about every other receiver available from JR.

The problem isn't single conversion, it's badly designed single conversion, which is not quite the same thing.

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02-08-2006 11:35 PM  12 years agoPost 55
turboomni

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I'm not doubting you Rob but then what are the advantages of a Dual Conversion over a single? I thought dual was abit better at rejecting interference ,although I'm no electronic expert.
Have I been barking poor advice??

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02-08-2006 11:38 PM  12 years agoPost 56
DR YEN

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Rob_T: Ironic that, the JR770 is single conversion, as is just about every other receiver available from JR.
oh, I see... Interesting..... So is the ALIGN RX poorly designed?
Rennster: I have an ALIGN receiver lying around that I'd like to sell. My Futaba full size receiver that came withmy 7CHP fits on my TREX. Anyone?
Rennster have you tried the ALIGN RX? Did you get it working???

Getting it to work itself already seems like a pain in the. But have any of you tried the ALIGN RX to really know its not good??
Tintin: I have 2 of those Align receivers, have used them in both my Rexes without any issues.
Tintin seems to be the only one that has been successful with the Align RX. Anyone else have any luck or bad luck like DEEK?


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02-09-2006 12:02 AM  12 years agoPost 57
Jcopter

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Los Angeles, CA

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I called and Andy at align has some berg crystals, call and check if he has the channel your looking for! If not they can order 1 for you.
Problem solved, now you can put it in a park flyer if you would like
How ever I have 2 align RX in T-rexes and have not had a problem I just dont think I would fly real far away with it but have not done this as yet.
Jack

Keep "Em" Flying

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02-09-2006 12:18 AM  12 years agoPost 58
Rob_T

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Advantage of dual conversion is its much easier to design one that works. Single conversion has a lower parts count and can be cheaper as a result, but operating at 72MHz is much harder to design right.

Sensitivity to interferance depends on the type of interferance. Single conversion can be more prone to 2im and 3im (intermodulation). Most dual conversion receivers are more prone to blocking than single conversion ones, so its not quite as 1 sided as is often claimed. (Blocking is avoided by not allowing the pilots to spread out around a single flying site.)

JR receivers perform very well in 2im and 3im testing both in the lab and in practice.

Anyway, buy the receiver not the technology!

I have no experience of Align's receivers, so wont answer if that is a good or bad one, but the bad name that single conversion receivers have is due to a large number of badly designed cheap receivers which haven't performed well making people conclude its the technology that's at fault.

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02-09-2006 12:22 AM  12 years agoPost 59
turboomni

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Great info, thanks,

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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02-09-2006 02:49 AM  12 years agoPost 60
DR YEN

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Arcadia, CA

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Jcopter: I called and Andy at align has some berg crystals
Hey speaking of which, DEEK called Andy the other day and he was told that the Align RX would not work with his Transmitter whatsover... Whats up with that?

What TX do you use Jcopter?

Anyways DEEK already has a RX Single Conversion JR crystal and hopefully after he plugs everything in the correct channels ... it might still work?

Thanks for the info Rob_T.


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