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01-16-2006 03:33 AM  13 years ago
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hdavidson

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Indoor heli recommendation please…
Hi all –

I am looking to purchase another heli to add to the fleet. I have an XRB which I truly love but I want something that is a bit more challenging / maneuverable but still flyable indoors. I thought perhaps a Piccolo would do the trick but dont know anything about them. I do have a JR 9303 radio that I can use with whatever I end up buying. I would prefer a very simple or RTF solution. $ is not a major decision factor.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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01-16-2006 05:10 AM  13 years ago
helicrazi

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how much area indoors ?
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01-16-2006 04:36 PM  13 years ago
atb

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personally id look at either a zoom or hornet collective pitch.

i have a piccolo fun but the trouble with them is that you dont seem to have them for long before you start to either out fly them so then you start to need to either upgrade it or buy another heli.

id just start as you mean to go on.

also the piccolo aint the best model to start with as it is quite difficult to fly in ground effect etc also on a stock piccolo forward flight is nigh on impossible as it has severe pitching up.

with a zoom or hornet etc itll stay with you as your skill levels increase and they fly great straight out of the box.

this is only my oppinion as i know theres a following for piccolos and a lot of people will probably disagree with me.

hope this helps.


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01-16-2006 06:31 PM  13 years ago
Lorents

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I guess it all depends on how much space you have. I have tried hovering a Zoom in my living room and it is not very relaxing thinking about what would happen if that rotor disc would hit something. I dont know if the smaller CP helicopters (like the Piccolo Pro) would be more forgiving to your furniture.

As ATB says it can be a challenge to fly a FP Piccolo and it does not fly very well either. If you want a helicopter to fly around and do loops and rolls it is not the right helicopter but if you want a challenge and something to fly in your living room it can be quite fun with a FP Piccolo.

When you can hover a Piccolo in ground effect you can hover everything

I have not tried any other FP models so I dont know if they are better or worse than the Piccolo.


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01-16-2006 06:41 PM  13 years ago
hdavidson

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Indoor heli recommendation please…
Thanks for all the great posts. I actually do most of my flying in the office. It buys me a little more space and is a great way to relieve stress. I work in a typical white-collar business environment so I don’t have tons of space but it’s certainly better than my living room. I would like the ship to be able to fly outdoors too but only needs to handle light wind conditions as I am building a Raptor 50 for serious outdoor use. Please keep the suggestions coming – hopefully there will be a common thread in all your suggestions that will help me make a decision. Thanks!
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01-16-2006 06:47 PM  13 years ago
Lorents

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I guess a Blade CP or something like that would be nice.

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01-16-2006 09:22 PM  13 years ago
helicrazi

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cp blade, humming bird pro 3d, trex, I love my blade but I think the hummimng bird would be better, no tail motor and brushless !!! good little heli.
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01-16-2006 09:25 PM  13 years ago
atb

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if you are looking for a heli to go outdoors then i would definatly go with a zoom or hornet as they will withstand the outdoors a million times better than a piccolo out of the box.

the headspeed for a piccolo pro is a dramatic hike too so the furniture rekking is still there but they have the tail motor as opposed to belt or shaft drive which basically means that the motor will just stop instead of ripping the teet off a belt or shaft.

if you want to take to the next few steps then id say go with the zoom or hor hornet. if you want to take it outdoors then go with the hornet, if you just want to hover around the house slowly then go with the piccolo but get a decent sized pack (my stock 250 MaH batt lasts about 2.5-3 mins) i have gp800mah cells and i get good times from it about 11-15 mins, head stiffener makes a big difference and upgrade the blades too oh not forgetting get a swash ball for it too i would say thats essential.

i sub microed mine it flies great in the house but thats it though.

i know theres a lot out there thatll disagree but hey its my opinion and im sticking to it lol.

most of all, have fun


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01-17-2006 12:20 AM  13 years ago
hdavidson

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which hornet or Zoom?
OK I don’t know anything about the Hornet or Zoom helis. I did take a quick look at Helihobby's site and there a number to choose from:

http://www.helihobby.com/html/hornet_kit_products.html

http://www.helihobby.com/html/zoom_heli.html


Out of these, what would you recommend? Again, price isn’t a major consideration but a stable, easy to maintain and fly heli is.

I am leaning towards a Hornet as I have heard a number of good things about them although I have also heard a lot trash about their larger birds: stinger 3 and 6.

Thanks again!
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01-17-2006 12:48 AM  13 years ago
atb

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personally id go for either the hornet xcp or the hornet 2 out of the hornet family.

probably swing more to the hornet 2 though.

with the zoom id go for a brushless setup and im yet to hear a bad thing about any of the zooms.

somebody will probably disagree but thats my tuppence worth

at the end of the day its all up to you i have flown a couple of all these helis above during heli swaps at the indoor flyin and i thought they flew fantastic.


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01-17-2006 02:57 AM  13 years ago
hdavidson

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FP or CCPM
I am still quite inexperienced and do not want to have to struggle with the setup. What do you think about going with the Hornet X FP? Would this be easier to fly and setup? Thanks.
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01-17-2006 08:01 AM  13 years ago
Lorents

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I am not sure, but I think the Hornet FP is more or less the same construction as the fixed pitch Piccolo and it will probably be equally difficult to fly within ground effect and outside in wind.

If I were you I would look at either a prebuildt CP kit (like the Blade CP), or if you want a bit more advanced model a Trex XL. The trex is about the same size as a Zoom but I it is cheaper and fly better out of the box. I think you can get pre buildt trex'es (at least the more expensive SE model) but you have to fit your own receiver, servos, gyro and speed controller which can be a hazzle.

- If you want to get started fast and mainly hover and fly slowly around inside and dont mind the extra challenge of flying a fixed pitch helicopter, go with a FP kit.
- If you want to get started fast and want to fly inside your office and do some flying outside in calm conditions, go with a prebuildt CP kit of some kind.
- If you want a more "proper" heli to fly mainly outside and that is able to handle some more advanced flying, go with a Trex.

Oh - and you should probably do a search on helihobby on this forum before you order from them. I have ordered from them several times and have not had any problems with them, but there are some that have.

Like atb stresses, these are only my opinions and there are probably those who disagree - so when you have decided on which category of heli you want you could probably search around and read some reviews of the available kits

There are some reviews of smaller e-helis on this site: http://www.ezonemag.com/ (just go to the archive and view all reviews)


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01-17-2006 04:28 PM  13 years ago
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the xfp has a higher headspeed and glass blades as stock with less pitch... whats this mean its more controllable in ground handles a little bit of wind too aparantly id certainly agree thats its a whole lot better than the piccolo but personlly id go with a collective pitch kit.

i know you say you dont have too much experience setting them up but you wont get the experience setting one up unless you build one the alternative is to buy a pre built one or ask your hobby store to assemble it for you.

the trex is a great alternative relativly low cost spares easy to setup etc if you think at all that youll be outside then go for a t-rex, hornet cp model or zoom,

what you want is something that will progress with you instead of something that you need to replace in a month or two like the piccolo


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01-17-2006 06:33 PM  13 years ago
cwright

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I have the Blade CP and it flies good. Just waiting for the bell hiller upgrade to come in. Another possibility is the Venom Night Ranger 3D. My local hobby shop has sold a few and it looks like it is more stable then the Blade CP. COntrols are quick on it also. Maybe some Thursday night when we get together I can fly one and give a better report on it. Looks promising right now though. Chuck
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01-18-2006 12:48 AM  13 years ago
hdavidson

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great suggestions!
Again, thanks for all the input. My plan is to own several different helis so I’m trying to pick the best one for each application. The XRB is great fun but not real challenging. My plan with this purchase is to basically replace it. Something that is stable, relatively simple to fly, and can be flow indoors and on occasion, outdoors in light wind. That’s why I thought the FP might work well.

I do plan on getting a TREX in the near future but will probably focus on my Raptor 50 for outdoor use. I have played with the Blade CP. I like the price but wanted something a little more high-end. Technically I think I handle the setup stuff but I just don't have that much time to devote to it. I would rather spend the time flying. Whatever I finally pick, I may have the dealer set it up RTF. I know the build process is an important part of the hobby but if it means never having time to do it, I would rather deal with it after crashing etc.

Thanks!
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01-18-2006 12:54 AM  13 years ago
atb

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i know what you mean its easier to take one apart and put it together after seeing where the bits came from.

the xfp would be fine for you to fly indoors it seems to be built quite well etc but i wouldnt personally fly it outdoors i flew me piccolo outside once it took me 10 ages to find it in the field after the wind picked up and took it away mid flight.

it was totally uncontrollable in the wind and when i started to try and get it to move forward it has put me off flying fp helis outdoors since.


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