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01-15-2006 03:46 PM  13 years ago
Ozydego

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FunHeli... Its all good man... I totally agree with YOU about not trying it as a beginner. I had enough trouble and I have had some stick time... that was good advice... not for the faint of heart... and wallet But Honey, I can't live with just stock.....
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01-15-2006 04:20 PM  13 years ago
Notch

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Can you imagine trying to fly backwards without a gyro? Yikes! (I can't even do it with a gyro...)Also, from what I've been told by one of my club's gurus that's been in this hobby for over 30 years, the tail rotors didn't rotate as fast in the early days, making the tail a little less sensitive. He told me that because of the difficulty managing the tail in the "good old days", only about 5% of the people that bought a heli stuck with it. He said that they didn't really catch on until gyros came onto the scene. With gyros (and other electronics goodies, such as computer radios) it appears to me that helis are the fastest growing segment of the flying hobbies. Just my opinion...
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01-15-2006 04:20 PM  13 years ago
spork

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FunHeli... Its all good man... I totally agree with YOU about not trying it as a beginner.
No question - that's absolutely solid advice. And I truly do respect FunHeli for being able to accept some corrections gracefully. That's not such a common thing.

RC
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01-15-2006 06:18 PM  13 years ago
FunHeli1

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Thanks guy's for the complement. The way I see it we are all friends here. With that in mind I hold no ill will towards anyone who has the intent to correct me. I am sure that this won't be the last time that I will be wrong or have bad information about something. I respect everyone's comment regarding my post and most of all I appreciate their setting the record straight. I look at it this way, If I couldn't take a beating I shouldn't have gotten into this hobby to begin with..

All that being said I do love this hobby and welcome all constructive critism because I certainly don't know all there is to know about it.

With everything that has shared in this thread I believe that Heli_J will get his answer.

Again Thanks,

Shane
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01-15-2006 09:44 PM  13 years ago
spork

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With everything that has shared in this thread I believe that Heli_J will get his answer.
Absolutely. One thing I think everyone agrees on, in the very best case going gyro-less will not be a money saving proposition!

The more likely case is frustration, discouragement, lots of crash damage, and maybe some injury.

RC
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01-15-2006 09:51 PM  13 years ago
Gary Hoorn

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Hey Shane,
Come on over to my corner here. I have posted and been the brunt of attacks on more than one occasion. Doesn't bother me at all! Although I learned to fly many years ago before all the modern devices were available I have no intention of ever flying a Heli again without a gyro and a computer radio To that extent I agree with you 100%!
Gary
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01-16-2006 01:36 PM  13 years ago
Heli_J

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IM BLOWN AWAY.....
wow, saturday night made the post and its monday...wholly cow...first and formast, I have a POS webra on the trex and it "sorta works" (a quick xchange to the futabe 401 and ROCK solid)......and the 401 is perminant for my babbie (qj-8)...

Again, i fully understand its function and I will bet anyone that without the invention of the modern marver, the 3D stuff would be inconcievable (well some of the stunts anyhow)....

Now another dumb questio....do REAL heli's have them...i think not...

Thanks 1,000,000 for the input and its REALLY ggood reading!
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01-16-2006 01:44 PM  13 years ago
Yug

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I flew mine for the 1st time yesterday. Unfortunately, the tail was simply not listening and the gyro setup was totally ineffective so it just whafted around. Rather than fight it, I just went with it and did loads of FFF with some loops and rolls. What a great heli. Can't wait to get the tail/gyro/servo sorted
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01-16-2006 02:19 PM  13 years ago
Heli_J

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Tmoore : Thanks for the history...im fascinated because my fateher's first RC palne was a Bang/Bang...1 bang left rudder, two bangs right rudder...and for neutral????....then ACE proportional...remember the widder/wagger tail... (bet the young uns dont know this...)...

FunHeli : your 100% on and thanks for stiring the pot...I will/am using gyro and main reason i asked is that my setup was off and i DID have to apply rudder to hover till i got the gyro set right...

Im learning on my own so setup is "interesting"....and heck yes expensive...

Thanks again to all and STILL havent read all the responses...
---> Blade CP, T-Rex, MX-400, QJ-8, QJ-16 No Gass, only Electric!
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01-16-2006 03:29 PM  13 years ago
FunHeli1

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Heli_J

No problem. That's what we are here for. I am just glad that we could all help.

Shane
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01-16-2006 10:09 PM  13 years ago
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heli j: "Now another dumb questio....do REAL heli's have them...i think not..."

no, usual helicopters do not have a gyro. i tried to hover a real bell 47 g and i really sucked at it. most older types of helicopters not even have a governor. that means the pilot had to adjust the motor-rpm all the time when applying pitch. now imagine what it means to hover a real bell 47 g: steady stick input with the right hand. steady pitching (by pulling and pushing the pitch) for collective with the left hand, steady throttleing (by twisting the pitch), also with left hand, and steady tail-control inputs with both legs...then dont forget to check the instruments at a minimum 3-seconds-period....waaah...but the latest attack-choppers like the apache for example have "a gyro". they even have an auto-hover and other auto-cruising-modes. i heard, the pilot could "auto-park" in 1 meter height, and get out of the machine to pee....

and my advice to all who want to fly the t-rex without a gyro:

hehehe, dont even think about it!
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01-16-2006 10:35 PM  13 years ago
RICHW

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Should I open up a new can of worms and say that a heli can't be flown without a FLYBAR???? Actually it can, and for the life of me, I don't how some people can do it! It makes for a great scale machine not to have that strange appendage on the mast.
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01-17-2006 03:48 AM  13 years ago
Ozydego

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A guy here tried the exact thing with a rex, and had some luck. Look for a post by aniihiliaT about flybarless setup... that thread went on for days... with interesting results.But Honey, I can't live with just stock.....
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01-17-2006 05:01 AM  13 years ago
jack726

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Most full scale helis do not have a flybar. They say that if you are used to it it is no harder than flying with a flybar. They have problems when they switch from flybar to no flybar.

Most scale jobs will have a gyro on the elevator control, as a minimum with probably a gyro on the aileron also. They make duel axis gyros with a mixer for this reason. Some people use 2 401 gyros to accomplish the same job.
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