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01-13-2006 11:58 PM  13 years ago
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Toadster25

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Installed new stock G231 in my Spectra G
I just put my new engine in my Spectra G last night and had it idling today at work in the shop about 65 deg. It seems smoother than my G26 did at idle. I am starting out using the stock muffler until I get at least one gallon through it since these engines seem to run a little ruff-(?spelling) at first so I wont have to worry about the V2 muffler coming loose. Is that a good idea? or will it not break in right if I switch mufflers later? Is it ok to break in a new engine in 40 deg temps?
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01-14-2006 12:15 AM  13 years ago
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Allrighty!
You can break in the engine at any temp you wish. Just buy a can of lawnboy ashless and mix it with 2 gallons or fuel and go at it. I broke mine in with the stock muffler, that is your choice either way is OK. I got the V2 on mine now. Just use lock washers and silicone RTV on the screw threads before you tighten it down.

Glad to hear you are getting back in the air with this machine!!

-=>Raja.
MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4264 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3392 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1808 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 705 flts
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01-14-2006 01:34 AM  13 years ago
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Yes I am glad to get back in the air too. Usally January is prety cold here in Iowa but the last week it has been in the 40's and now that I have this new engine I want to fly realy bad so I hope tomarrow I can get some flights in. I did buy the lawn boy ashless 8 oz. can. I put half of it in one gallon of Ozark camper fuel. I was planing to do one gallon of this stuff before switching to amsoil.
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01-14-2006 02:50 AM  13 years ago
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Use it all
Go with the 2 gallons of Ozark and use up the whole can, they do say 1 to 2 gallons for break in. Personally I don't like the Amsoil idea so I'll stay out of that one. Many people recommend it so go with their recommendation on it. Just remember, rich = run, lean = score so stay on the rich side when you are running low oil content.

-=>Raja.
MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4264 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3392 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1808 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 705 flts
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01-14-2006 11:26 PM  13 years ago
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I got about 1/2 gallon through it today. My futaba 611 gyro tape came apart and my tail jumped a little but all is ok since I have velcro wraped around it too. I am running about 1 1/2 turns out on both mixture screws and it is running a little rough but that is how I want it for now. I have been flying an e-flite blade cp alot the last month and this Spectra G feels weired to fly now and seems like it has tons of power but I think that is because I am used to the blade cp. I hope that little thing doesn't mess me up when I fly my spectra G. I thought it would help since the CP is so unstable but now when I see such a big heli with all the money that it cost it's kind of scary.

I planned to use amsoil at 50:1. What ratio do you use. I know I have heard that some people don't recomend using amsoil but I figure oil is oil and its all prety much the same as long as it is synthetic. I would never run it at 100:1 like the bottle says you can. Maybe that is where you could run in to problems with it?
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01-15-2006 12:51 AM  13 years ago
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The futaba tape in my opinion is garbage. I've had that stuff split on me on several different machines. Use a good gyro tape and you will be OK.

I run 32:1 oil mixture but I use brands like Yamalube and Blue Marbel. 50:1 will certainly be better than 64:1 or leaner. Just remember to keep the needles on the rich side to be safe.

-=>Raja.
MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4264 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3392 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1808 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 705 flts
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01-15-2006 02:16 PM  13 years ago
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You will be fine using the Amsoil at 50:1 ratio. That is more than enough lubrication even for those who would mistakenly do lean runs. 50:1 ratio has become the industry standard now for even the yard implements and power equipment. This in part due to the EPA for environmental reasons (keep the oil that the motor did not use or need to operate out of the enviroment).
As Raja states, you can use other oils with super results but just make sure to always err to the rich side on your needles.

You could use any ratio you wished and if your needles are not letting enough fuel in (lean), the needles are also not letting the oil in either as it is mixed in the fuel. This is a good thing to remember.

Later,
BIGRCR- John Garst
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01-15-2006 11:18 PM  13 years ago
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Thanks for the input guys. I went out to do some more flying today and on the second flight my throttle servo quit. I would guess it was around 1/3 throttle. It wasn't running too fast so I was ok. I just let it run with negative pitch on the ground with my throttle hold switch on. After about 2 min of this it finally decided to move and idled down so I didn't have to wait for over 1/2 tank of gas to burn off. I was using a JR811 servo so I'm not realy suprized that it failed. I have heard of other people having problems with the throttle servo. Any recomedations for a good and cheap throttle servo.

The temp here in Iowa got up around 55 and sounds like we have a chance of snow tomarrow so I probably wont be flying for another month. Oh well it was fun while it lasted.
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01-15-2006 11:32 PM  13 years ago
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811 no good
Yeah the 811 seems to be a very low quality servo. I've used it on my other gasser (1005) and it dies after a while. I've had two of them replaced/repaired and now I won't put it in any helicopter, its in my plane now as a throttle servo.

Use a Futaba cheap servo, I'm using a 3001 on mine and it seems to work OK so far. I also have a fast 9402 and was thinking to use that but decided against it for now.

Oh yeah, it was 55 here yesterday too and there was a hole in the clouds and the rain stopped. I ran out and managed to do 3 flights with my 1005 gasser (waiting on a paint job for the canopy of the Spectra) and it was dead calm and avesome. Managed 3 flights and broke a sweat with my jacket as it was too warm! Today the wind has switched over and is gusting to 33mph. Went to bed it was 42 last night. woke up and it was 23 degrees. All day the temp has been falling, never moved higher, and now its 12f and the wind is still coming down from the north.

Yeah, guess is was fun while it lasted indeed!

-=>Raja.
MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4264 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3392 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1808 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 705 flts
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01-16-2006 02:42 AM  13 years ago
Toadster25

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I just remembered I have 3 JR 517 servos. I see on horizon website that they don't even make them anymore. They are a standard BB servo. I would think that it will work ok for the throttle.
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01-16-2006 09:33 PM  13 years ago
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i too have had thottle servo problems i didn't have much luck with the537 jr servo it blew it's load in about 3 tanks of fuel
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01-16-2006 11:03 PM  13 years ago
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Servos... you get what you pay for...even throttle servos...How much do you value your heli?
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