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01-13-2006 10:30 AM  13 years ago
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felix12

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venture 30 reliability/quality?
hAVING HAD ONE FOR SOME 2 MONTHS NOW AND 2.5 GALLONS THROUGH IT, I AHVE ENCOUNTERED ONE BROKEN MUFFLER, BLADE TRACKINJG PROBLEMS NEEDED AN UPGRADE. THE LATEST THING IS THAT IT WOULD NOT START FOR 4TH FLIGHT ON WEDNESDAY LAST AND THE REASON IS THE ONE WAY BEARING INTERGRAL TO THE CLUTCH HAD BROKEN MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO FIRE UP OR TURN THE ENGINE OVER. i HAVE JUST REPLACED THE CLUTCH.
AM I JUST UNLUCKY OR IS THE TYPICAL SERVICABILITY RATE FOR THE VENTURE 30 NORMALLY THIS BAD? SEEMS TO ME THAT EVERY TIME I DO GET GOOD FLYING WEATHER, WHICH IS NOT OFTEN IN WALES, UK AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, I AM WORKING ON THE HELICOPTER AND ACQUIREING OTHER PARTS INSTEAD OF FLYING? ANY OPINIONS WELCOME AS I AM SERIOUSLY THINKING OF GOING TO A RAPTOR EITHER AS A REPLACEMENT OR AN ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT TO HAVE WHEN THE VENTURE IS "DOWN"
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01-13-2006 02:27 PM  13 years ago
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I have had a Venture for three years and have never had a problem with the reliability. The only upgrades that i put on it were an MP2 and the Ergo blade grips. The venture is a good flying trainer that is sturdy as hell. I have yet to break the frames and even with all plastic parts there is little slop.Peace through superior firepower
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01-13-2006 07:32 PM  13 years ago
yugi

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I had a Venture30 that had all those problems and then some......THE FIX?....SOLD it and got a REAL heli.....a Voyager 50!

Yugi
If you keep doing the same thing…...you’re going to get the same results!
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01-14-2006 12:52 PM  13 years ago
felix12

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What is an MP"? I gather it is some sort of upgrade on the venture?
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01-14-2006 01:20 PM  13 years ago
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MP = Muscle Pipe , a tuned exhaust system sold by Curtis Youngblood Enterprises .At the end of the day , it gets dark .
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01-14-2006 02:41 PM  13 years ago
felix12

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oh, well I have already replaced the bog standard one that broke off with a zimmermann and that has not given me any probs, I still have to get those ergo grips which over here in the UK are £54 whixh must be $75 or so dollars, not cheap, but in the long run I guess they are worth it.
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01-17-2006 10:49 PM  13 years ago
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well I picked up the new clutch from the dealer this evening and noticed the bearing is now dispensed with, the starter shaft being one unit with the clutch, so JR must have noted this problem themselves. Pity they continued to sell their ship with the obviously less able part on it for the customer to have to discover and change.
Should be back in the air, weather permitting this week end.
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01-17-2006 11:09 PM  13 years ago
JWatson

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felix
the Ergo grips are only $13.00 (US) the P/N is JRP960063


Let me know If you cant get them for that, but Ricks RC has them.


Good luck,

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01-18-2006 09:28 AM  13 years ago
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Felix12,

Did you get your manchine 2nd hand? The Venture 30 comes as standard with the one piece clutch setup that you have mentioned. The 2 part item comes on the more expensive machines. I've never heard of the 30/50 JR models having a bearing clutch problem.. but there is always the possability of a duff one.

Regarding the grips. Where are you getting your prices from? The Ergo grips are part number JRH60063 and retail for £6.95. Were you looking at metal K&S grips? The standard JR Ergo plastic ones (which people are discussing here) are substantially cheaper..

Cheers

Mark
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01-19-2006 12:04 AM  13 years ago
felix12

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Cheers for that info guys, yes my venture is a new aircraft acquired only three months ago and the clutch, starter shaft etc were seperate with a one way bearing when I got it, the replacement clutch has no bearing and the shaft and clutch are all one part.
As for the ergo grips, yes I was looking at the metal ones, I assumed the plastic ones I was offerred would have the same problem. Is it the case that the ergo plastic grips are the ones that sort out rotor tracki9ng probs? If that is the case I can get them immediately. I sure am glad I joined this forum and thanks for all the info.
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01-19-2006 08:54 AM  13 years ago
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Felix,

Yes the plastic grips are what you need. I've never had a problem with the standard Venture grips but I always glue the bearings in to take out any slop. We had to do the same in the old days with the Hirobo Shuttle to remove slop in the grips.

Did your venture come with the engine installed? Perhaps the factory assembled Ventures with engine come with the upgraded clutch where as the standard ones come with the one piece item..

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Mark
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01-19-2006 03:12 PM  13 years ago
felix12

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Hello Rotarsoft, no my venture came part built, but I had to choose the gyro's, engine and install them myself.
It came with the clutch bell installed but I had to insert the starter shaft, (I had to file the lip on that a good lot more than it was to get the hex nut to stay on it). I have just flown two tankfulls thru it today with the new one piece clutch installed and so far I prefer the one piece that does away with that bearing. I never liked the bearing as it was giving trouble from day one before it went.
By slop do you mean the little movement there is on the blade grips you can feel with your hand befor eyou attach the rotors? I noticed that when I was building it and thought it should have been tighter?
I might give it a try with the glue to see if that helps.
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01-19-2006 05:48 PM  13 years ago
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Hi Felix,

Maybe they have updated the kits since the last time I saw them. Either way there shouldn't have been a problem with the bearing.. but there's always one! Looks like you got the short straw.

I glued the bearings in with a very small smear of cyano around the bearings. You could also use 5 minute epoxy. Just make sure you don't get any in the bearings themselves!

The downside of this is that it makes the bearings difficult to replace.. but if you break a grip in a crash the chances are the bearings won't be any use anymore anyhow..

Cheers

Mark
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01-21-2006 08:04 PM  13 years ago
felix12

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No, the bearing I was referring to was the one that failed in the origianal clutch on the starter shaftand not the ones on the grips.
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01-21-2006 08:57 PM  13 years ago
MEMFLIGHT

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Felix12,

Maybe I wasn't clear in my reply...

I understand it was your clutch bearing.. however that should never have given you a problem but there is always one.. The original kits all had the one piece clutch setup in so not sure why it's changed on yours.

Cheers

Mark
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01-22-2006 06:05 PM  13 years ago
felix12

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I see, well I wish they had left it the way it was! LOL
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01-24-2006 04:26 PM  13 years ago
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Good weather today in wales, uk, so with my venture I went out and have now gone thru three gallons of fuel. No mishaps, flying was great and will be even better when I get those ergo blade grips to keep the tracking firmly correct.
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