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01-13-2006 09:56 AM  13 years ago
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Espadon

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logo 10 good motor (5/6S lipo)
hi all
I seek a good set up in 5/6S max for logo 10 but I am lost for the engines:
kontronik tango 45 10
orbit 25 10
shp mx12
and for the controller:
jazz 55 6 18
jazz 80 6 18
thank you for your answers and sorry for my bad english
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03-05-2006 04:29 AM  13 years ago
sean911sc

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Logo 10 3D on 6S2P 4200
I just tried a Kontronik FUN 600-15 w/ 13T and Kontronik Beat 55-6-18.

Killed the Motor and ESC today after overtemp engine during a 8min duration test (hover and FF). This setup did provide great a fast vertical climb rate, but it could handle the load. Throttle curve is N: 0-85-85-85-85 I1: 85-85-85-85-85.

I'm using (4) TP 2100 3S1P 15C/24B LiPo's in a 6S2P setup (using my TREX batteries).

The motor/esc were used so I don't know the history, but they served the purpose for initial testing. I'm know looking at the Tango 45-10 or a NeuMotor 1907-1.5Y. Generally motors in the 900 to 1300 KVM range for the 6S2P setup. This is a non-BOX setup.

Also going to go with another Kontronik ESC - Jazz 80-6-18. These ESC have the a great soft start, and no TC is required as the ESC has a RPM circuitry. You basically connect the battery, and switch to I1 mode and the heli soft spools up to desired head speed and maintains it for you. Just program pitch curves.

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Logo in SD
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03-05-2006 05:19 AM  13 years ago
ChopperMcFly

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You should have put the aluminum motor base in. The temp on mine droped 40*f now my orbit is running at 140*f with head speed of 2000 rpm. Orbit 30-10 with a cooling fan I just need good stong batteries now. Sean why did you Kill that motor did you not monitor the temps. you have a temp gun?
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03-05-2006 01:41 PM  13 years ago
tean

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Bonjour Espadon,
I had an Orbit 20-10 on 5s in my Logo10 and it gave good performance: Up to 10mins of 3D from a 5Ah battery with a Jazz 50-6-18. Power is simillar to a good 30 size glow model. 20 tooth pinion gives about 1850rpm.

For more va va voom, the Orbit 25-10 on 6s should be a good choice. You should still be able to use the Jazz 50-6-18, but it will be towards its maximum ratings.
In my opinion, the Orbits are excellent motors, and cheap too.

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Logo14 Vbar, Logo500 CSM flybarless, Trex 600 CSM flybarless, 3DMP, Logo10, Lipoly, Mini T, .......
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03-05-2006 05:12 PM  13 years ago
sean911sc

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The motor/esc config couldn't handle the 6S2P setup. it would overtemp within 4min of hover and vertical climb rate testing. The FUN 600-15 is rated for 12-14 cell NiCAD/NiMH motor, its a 12-14v motor. It wasn't going to handle duration (8min) flights on a 6S2P 22.2v 4200Mah. It served it purpose, which was to test a 6S2P setup.

Yes, I was monitoring the temps. I changed throttle curves numerous times in efforts to find a sweet spot. It would have been great if you like 3min fights. That part of testing. I knew when I bought the motor/esc combo from you that it wasn't my first choice and that I would be pushing it from the start. No room to reduce headspeed when your already using a 13T pinon.

Needless to say the electronic specs tell it all, 12-14 cell (NiCAD) in a 22.2v LiPo setup isn't going to work for any length of time.

My goal was to get the bird flying and test. You push electronics and they fail. I can live with the facts and test with setup #2: Tango 45-10 and Jazz 80-6-18, which are more suited for a 6S2P or HV setup.

The bottom line at the end of the day - are you having fun. YES

Build/Test/Fly/Enjoy
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