RunRyder RC
WATCH
 2 pages [ <<    <     1     ( 2 )    >    >> ] 5558 views POST REPLY
Home✈️Aircraft🚁HelicopterThunder TigerOther › How to make a Raptor 50 V2 a better 3D machine
01-12-2006 04:11 PM  13 years ago
kirk

rrVeteran

Northern, Colorado

MyPosts All Forum Topic
R50
Good constructive post oneinnesja. My take on the whole Evo Vs. Raptor Debate is that not too many people that can fly any of these helis to the helis potential. There is always something that any heli can help you learn better. So fly what you like and have fun doing it. You will never chenge someone elses view once they have their mind made up. I have worked on both and flown both. I prefer Raptors, its not a big deal I still have fun flying with friends that have Evo's, MA's, Avants, or whatever. Shoot they can even use a Futuba TX and I don't care

Going back 2clharris questions about tail rotor performance. I do not think you need to boom mount your tail servo to get good performance, nor do I think there is a major tail pushrod design flaw in the stock linkage. When you boom mount the servo flying backwards gives the tial servo an oil bath, and if you crash the servo has a better chance of getting hurt. I would recommend leaving the servo where it is and work on your linkage a bit. I run mine up front and it works great. If it makes you feel any better the last time I looked Alan Szabo runs his servos up front and uses the stock linkage.

If setup properly the 502 will hold the tail just fine in backwards flight. Blowouts with these or any gyro in MY case has usually been power (poor collective management) related more so than gyro related. You might see its limitations when you start doing a lot of piro type moves. The 502 and 401 have a piro rate that is not the most consistant. You can usually notice this by flying in a straight line and doing some piros. The tail on the heli will whip around on the back side of the piro. If you are not doing piro moves this is probably not a big deal at this point.

My R50 setup consits of the following and it is one of the best flying R50's that I have had the opertunity to fly. My electronics are a bit overkill but it does fly nice

R50 SE
Quick UK head
Quick UK Swash and washout
OS50 Hyper
JK Hatori
Futuba 9350's on Cyclic
KO Propo 2321 on the Collective
TJ Pro
Futuba 611 with servo
Magnum 30%
Red Dapners
Green Paddles
2K headspeed in idle up
Duralite reg and battery
MAH 95MM tails and MS 600's (I prefer MAH 600 DT's)

My R50 setup this way gives me a good performing heli that will do any trick in the book (too bad my fingers won't). Its a great heli like this and gets more flight time than my 90 becase of the relivly low crash cost, performance, and low fuel cost.

Anyway I wish you the best, and I hope you have fun...

Kirk
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-12-2006 10:06 PM  13 years ago
kdog

rrNovice

Chicago

MyPosts All Forum Topic
If you add the Hatori pipe with an OS50 Hyper do you have to modify the canopy to fit the pipe? The reason I ask is that I just got an Arizona Heli fiberglass canapy and don't want to cut it up for a pipe...Maybe...

Thanks
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-12-2006 10:10 PM  13 years ago
Shortman

rrKey Veteran

Portland, Oregon

MyPosts All Forum Topic
I had to trim it a few millimeters, its very subtle. Takes a minute to do with a dremel.Team JR
Team ThunderPower RC
Boca Bearings
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-12-2006 10:10 PM  13 years ago
kirk

rrVeteran

Northern, Colorado

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Canopy and Hatori
Yes you have to trim it a bit. I have put blue masking tape on the painted canopy and slowly worked it with a drum on a dremel tool. It seemed to work fine for me. Others might have better ideas.

Kirk
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-12-2006 10:54 PM  13 years ago
RCHeliJim

rrElite Veteran

Orem, UT USA

MyPosts All Forum Topic
I had to trim my fiber canopy for it as well, I used a soldering iron with the xacto tip for the main cut - then used the sanding drum to clean it up. Worked pretty well

Go Fly, Have Fun!!
-Team Quick UK
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-13-2006 04:56 AM  13 years ago
Salty

rrElite Veteran

St. Augustine

MyPosts All Forum Topic
dont forget about resealing the edge of the raw glass with some thin CA (carefully)Ask your Doctor if getting off your ass is right for you.
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-13-2006 06:29 AM  13 years ago
mnewhook

rrApprentice

Newfoundland, Canada

MyPosts All Forum Topic
My canopy trimming technique.

1/ Mount muffler.
2/ Mount canopy (mine is screwed in on the front skid, and the rear mounts).
3/ Go fly.

The muffler melts the canopy into shape very quickly
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR  Quote
01-13-2006 09:51 AM  13 years ago
andres.c

rrKey Veteran

pan

MyPosts All Forum Topic
The muffler melts the canopy into shape very quickly

i second that one works for me also
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-13-2006 11:40 AM  13 years ago
rob10000

rrKey Veteran

Western Massachusettes

MyPosts All Forum Topic
The muffler melts the canopy into shape very quickly
Unless it's fiberglass
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-14-2006 05:39 AM  13 years ago
2clharris

rrNovice

Houston, TX.

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Rotor parts
I noticed the name Quick UK. There are a few others that manufacture main rotor heads for the Raptor 50. What are your thoughts on who to go with?

Will I need to upgrade my on board battery to accomidate a bunch of current hungry digital servos? I would think splitting up the power sources for the reciever and the servos would be the way to go. Has anyone done this?

I really like the metal tail rotor parts. I ran a stress analysis on the current Raptor 50 Tail rotor design and the thing looks like rubber at high loads (pitch angles).

Andres.c, I really appreciate the detailed and illustrated post.

Kirk, looks like you have a nice setup.
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR  Quote
04-07-2006 01:03 PM  13 years ago
Giggen

rrNovice

Norway

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Hello. My setup is:

Raptor 50 v2
ACE DS 1013 13kg 0,1 sek pitch and cyklic
Futaba 9254 and 401 gyro
A digital hitec on trottel
Futaba GV1
Metal Hub
Red dampers
Green paddels
Ms komposite 3D Carbon blades
OS 50 Hyper with Hattori Tune pipe
Fromeco battery system. 2400 lipoly with 6v reg.

this works great and has tons of power.
The 6v reg and the ACE servoes really gives it pitch POWER.

Can really recomend this setup to anybody
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
WATCH
 2 pages [ <<    <     1     ( 2 )    >    >> ] 5558 views POST REPLY
Home✈️Aircraft🚁HelicopterThunder TigerOther › How to make a Raptor 50 V2 a better 3D machine
 Print TOPIC  Make Suggestion 

 6  Topic Subscribe

Friday, September 20 - 5:03 pm - Copyright © 2000-2019 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online