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02-12-2006 04:17 AM  12 years agoPost 21
The_Widowmaker

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Bear Valley Springs, CA

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My only fix was to go to DX6. I am going to try JR FM this weekend and see what happens. Everyone says ferrite rings, route the wires this way, move the components here, etc.. but there is only so much you can do. I still say it has to do with the metal bearing blocks. If I get the cutouts with the JR FM, I'm going to see if Ctimrun will let me borrow the plastic bearing blocks from his TRex to find out for sure.

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02-12-2006 04:47 AM  12 years agoPost 22
Ctimrun

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Widowmaker,

You are more than welcome to borrow my plastic bearing blocks. I don't know any more than anyone else here, but I am willing to bet it is the metal bearing blocks, the silver layers in the carbon, and possibly the static electricity from the belt all working together to make glitching an issue.

I've got black carbon and plastic bearing blocks, so Widowmaker and I can do some guess/elimination work to see what we can find out....

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02-12-2006 04:53 AM  12 years agoPost 23
The_Widowmaker

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Yes that would be awesome. I have to try out that FM receiver first and see if the cutout shows up again.

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02-12-2006 07:28 AM  12 years agoPost 24
Deves

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Anaheim CA.

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Widowmaker, So the DX6 fixed your glitching problems, How do you like the radio overall? i'm also having these problems on my XL and am using the Radio/receiver combination not so highly recommended by Finless.

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02-12-2006 07:53 AM  12 years agoPost 25
The_Widowmaker

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I like it fine for the TRex but not my choice for nitro. I prefer more options, mainly more pitch and throttle curves. I see your nearby. I live in Seal Beach so drop me a PM and you can swing by. We can work on your glitch and your welcome to try out my DX6 if its not sold by then. I'm up till late tonight and free tomorrow.

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02-12-2006 08:07 AM  12 years agoPost 26
Deves

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Thanks for your offer, I might take you up on it someday.
That's what I was afraid of with that radio, I wonder why they only out 3 throttle/pitch curves on it?

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02-12-2006 08:51 AM  12 years agoPost 27
The_Widowmaker

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Probably be sold in a few days so don't wait to long.

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02-12-2006 11:56 AM  12 years agoPost 28
Awamori

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fwiw,
I had to chime in on this one....I had the optic 6/Electron RX combo and let me tell you "Glitch nightmare". Some people seem to have zero problems but I honestly feel that more than most have definate cut-outs with that set-up. It caused a crash because I was at low level and far away. After talking with some people with way more experience than myself the DX6 was seeming like the cure all. So after reading mixed reviews I bit the bullet and went with it. All I can say is man of all the decisions I have made that was the best one yet. I flew close to eight packs yesterday with out one single glitch. The biggest thing for me was the confidence level! I mean until yesterday I only flew tail in and would only try everything else on the sim. To make a long story short I was nose in hovering in a gym with no worries. Another thingeople complain on only having a three point pitch curve, but that was basically what I was running on my optic 6 with 0-INN-65-INN-100 in normal. Don't want to beat a dead horse here but I find it difficult to believe you will be dissapointed from switching to the DX6 Radio. My total flying time is approx 3 months and my goals are to just continue progressing not dealing with serious glitch problems. Man, I really needed to get that off my chest!

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02-12-2006 06:23 PM  12 years agoPost 29
Deves

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Thanks for your input Awamori..

What are using for throttle curve?

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02-12-2006 06:33 PM  12 years agoPost 30
The_Widowmaker

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There is not a thing wrong with the 3 point curve. Some prefer having more but honestly when I was using 5 points, the #2 and #4 curves were INH so it was the same thing. The DX6 definitely gets rid of glitches because the interference is not in that frequency. I just would not recommend it for nitros mainly because of only 6 channels. Thats the only reason I'm selling mine is because I have a nitro now and don't want two radios.

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02-12-2006 07:02 PM  12 years agoPost 31
Awamori

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DEVES What are using throttle curve?[quote]

To be honest with you I took the settings for set-up right off of this website. With a little sub-trim I was getting 3-4 seconds hands free hovers. Had a buddy count the seconds. I found this very helpfull.
http://www.digimemphoto.com/trexfiles/trexguide.pdf

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02-12-2006 08:05 PM  12 years agoPost 32
The_Widowmaker

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I just put in a JR R700 after removing the DX6. Got everything set up right and first flight, within 3 minutes, the dreaded motor cutout showed up.

So now that CTimrun has given me the go ahead, I am going to remove the plastic bearing blocks from his TRex and out them on my SE to test out the theory that the metal blocks may be the problem. I will post results soon.

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02-12-2006 09:08 PM  12 years agoPost 33
lionel2341

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Just a quick chime in here, many guys here in my part of NJ are flying SE's and standard CDE's without glitches. One reason, is all of us are using 146ip receivers. No glitching in the SE at all. So there could be something going on with these other receivers.

Ernie

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02-12-2006 09:14 PM  12 years agoPost 34
kookboy

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The 146ip will mask glitches, not get rid of them.

... But honey it was only $$$

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02-12-2006 10:16 PM  12 years agoPost 35
The_Widowmaker

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Changed out the main and tail bearing blocks to plastic and still had a motor cutout. I did not change the tailboom block and can't right now because I don't have any two sided tape at the time. Not looking good at this point.

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02-12-2006 11:11 PM  12 years agoPost 36
Helifool

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Rochester New York

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The 146ip will mask glitches, not get rid of them.
This worries me because I use that reciever and dont know whether im getting glitches or not. I dont have a 6 channel FM reciever to check either.

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02-12-2006 11:47 PM  12 years agoPost 37
lionel2341

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kookboy,

Not seeing any lockouts either. (IE:Masking of glitches)

Ernie

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02-12-2006 11:52 PM  12 years agoPost 38
The_Widowmaker

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Ernie, masking the glitch is not a lockout. A lockout is just that, a lockout. Small glitches will be masked. If the glitch it very critical, for example a long or repetitive glitch, then it would result in a lock out.

The glitches are coming in a certain frequency, obviously. FM and PCM both fall in that frequency range so PCM does not make the glitches go away. 2.4ghz however will since the interference is not in that frequency.

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02-13-2006 12:24 AM  12 years agoPost 39
The_Widowmaker

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2 flights now with the SE back to metal blocks but with JR PCM RX and no cutout so it appears to be masking it.

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02-13-2006 02:43 AM  12 years agoPost 40
Anderman

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Thornton, CO

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Does anyone put a ground wire from there boom to the battery negative? I tried this and I also braided the ESC to motor wires. I have just used a whole battery without a glitch. I will try and go through another couple of batteries tommorrow but it seems so far that this has possible fixed my problem?

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