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01-10-2006 03:23 AM  13 years ago
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Wingman

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XeroG Box VS. Ork
My friend and I both got raptor conversions from Santa Mine from my checkbook and his from his wife's!

Anyway I got the XeroG600 and he got an Ork conversion for his 50. He got his together first and I have to say I was really impressed and then yesterday I got my 600 in the air and there was no comparison, the XeroG just simply looked and felt 'lighter on its feet'. We both have been following the threads on RR and the other forums so we were both surpised about the difference because everyone was moving toward the orks? We decided to swap batteries to see if mine were better since he already had about 20 flights on his and the results were the same.

We both want to know what the big thing is about the orks, my XeroG definately flys better and has a lot more power?

Next we are going to mount the ork in my bird to see if it makes any difference.
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01-10-2006 04:02 AM  13 years ago
Lost Horizon

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I'm not sure why the Orks are the flavour of the day, other than that they are the new date on the block..

I've flown hi pole count motors which deliver great torque within their rpm limitations, but IMO, nothin' puts out like the hi revving low pole count motors geared down and torqued up to deliver the goods, such as you have on your XeroG. I agree with you, totally. I have a XeroG on 10s2p and a 1515-2Y at 40k, and it is my best machine, easily beating my Logo 14 on 10s2p for handling and performance.

The word will get out.. you are just ahead of the pack.. enjoy the ride!

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01-14-2006 10:10 PM  13 years ago
RescueHelicopter

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what one has longer flight times at 1600-1800 headspeed?
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01-16-2006 12:17 AM  13 years ago
Lost Horizon

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Using the timer, and flying similar flights for the time, at 1950-2000, if the geared setup draws 3000mah, the big pole would draw about 3200. At 1750 or so, the difference is typically smaller, but still there.
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01-16-2006 08:54 AM  13 years ago
RescueHelicopter

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so you both use the 1515 2y? what ESC? jazz?

What do your ships weigh?
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01-16-2006 04:28 PM  13 years ago
Lost Horizon

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I use a 1515-2Y with a 32.55K Schulze ESC in governor mode, hi rpm on, running on 10s2p 4000's.

The machine, with the XeroG canopy on (not shown in the pic), CF struts and tail boom supports (not shown in the pic), 92mm CF tail blades and SAB 600 mains weighs (as good as I can do on my scales) 2.56kg. The 10s2p 4000mah pack weighs 0.8kg, for a ready to fly weight of 3.36kg, or 7.39 pounds.

Here are 3 of my machines, all running NEU 4 pole hi rpm power.


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02-01-2006 12:04 AM  13 years ago
RescueHelicopter

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bought the ORK and Jazz
i will be doing a build thread soon
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02-01-2006 07:30 AM  13 years ago
DOKEY

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In the pic, the logo14 with the box setup, does this have the same setup as your 600ep ? ie 1515-2y, 10s2p pack etc ?

How does it compare to the 600ep in power and duration ?

Thanks.
Ryan.
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02-01-2006 10:09 AM  13 years ago
Lost Horizon

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The L14 and the 600EP share the identical power. THe L14 is running 570 RotorTechs and the 600EP is running 600 Sab's.

They both fly a "big sky", and I run them both for the same times which pulls about 3300mah for approx 7 minutes. The L14 may be slightly less. The 600EP is smoother overall, and seems to have a better penetration. Both are good in cyclic and collective. The L14 is a bit twitchier. They both have more than enough power, although I think the 600 is a bit better at delivering it to the disk with the larger rotor.

Although they are both great machines, if I could only keep one, it would be the 600EP.
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02-01-2006 10:17 AM  13 years ago
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Thanks Lost Horizon.

I am looking at another electric heli hopefully in the near future, to run along side my 600ep, very tempted with the Logo 14, so I am just looking at the different power options available.
Thanks.
Ryan.
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02-01-2006 10:27 AM  13 years ago
Lost Horizon

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Well, the L14 makes a great companion for the 600EP in that you can get best use out of your packs by running the same power. THat's why I do it... to simplify my battery inventory..

THere may be a direct drive solution that will fit the Logo also, since the disk is smaller and can't use quite as much of the available power as the 600 EP.
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