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11-13-2005 11:32 PM  12 years agoPost 1
chopperman1

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Hey, ive been wanting to hit idle so bad, but i dont know what it is going to do. With the throttle sticck to the bottom and hit idle up what is gonna happen. whith the stick cetered what will it do.

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11-13-2005 11:37 PM  12 years agoPost 2
tinner

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centered it will have 0deg pitch 50% power

down stick at max it will have -10 deg pitch 100% power

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11-14-2005 01:48 AM  12 years agoPost 3
SBB

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Typically what happens is I crash, seconds later.

As Tinner said, it changes the behavior of your throttle stick.

Normally, stick-down is engine off, 0 pitch;
50% stick is 50% throttle, some positive pitch;
100% stick is 100% throttle, full positive pitch (for that mode).

With idle-up -
0% stick is 100% throttle, full *negative* pitch (for inverted flying, etc).
50% stick is 50% throttle, 0 pitch.
100% stick is 100% throttle, full positive pitch
And as you've noticed, there is no "off" in idle-up. Crash procedure usually involves a mad-dash to get *out* of idle-up, THEN move the stick to 0 before you hit the ground.

The easy method for engaging idle-up is to spool up to 50%, then throw the switch.

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11-14-2005 02:56 AM  12 years agoPost 4
Cameron

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I just got my cp and was so tempted to press it that i did and my heli flew up in the air (in my living room) . Scared the **** outta me . I reccomened not pressing it but thats just me

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11-14-2005 03:17 PM  12 years agoPost 5
Stratmanx

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All hell breaks loose, thats what happens !!!!

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11-14-2005 04:04 PM  12 years agoPost 6
Stack

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To answer your question....
"Hey, ive been wanting to hit idle so bad, but i dont know what it is going to do. With the throttle sticck to the bottom and hit idle up what is gonna happen. whith the stick cetered what will it do."


If you have the stick at the bottom you will reach full negative pitch. This means your heli will decend... rapidly. Not a good idea. If you are on the ground the heli will be pushing itself downward.

If it is at mid stick and you have 0 degrees of pitch you should only see the headspeed go up. However, I doubt that you will find that exact spot easily. Chances are that you will have some pitch and depending on whether it is pos or neg you will get a different result. Obviously you want to have pos pitch if you are not inverted (in most cases)!

If I am in a nice hover and I hit the switch, the headspeed will increase but the heli will stay where it was. Increased headspeed has many benefits including a way smoother flight.

Anyway ....... the Idle up switch is a great thing. As long as you know what to expect and how to utilize it.

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11-14-2005 05:30 PM  12 years agoPost 7
BladeBoy

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Dont if u dont wanna rapair it
LoL that would be so funny you should video it and see what happens but if you dont know what ur doing then it WILL crash.

It allows you to fly upside down wich is why it is a collective pitch heli but if you do hit that button the blade will speed up to 100% throttle and definitely break something.

Read the manual... (duh) its in there in the middle somewhere and in the back it tells you all the specs when your in that mode.

Read The Manual (Duh)

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11-14-2005 07:01 PM  12 years agoPost 8
Bill8Bud

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Well, if you change that switch with the helicopter on the ground and the left control all the way down like I did when grabbing my radio the bird comes to life and attacks you...lol

my .02 cents

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11-14-2005 07:26 PM  12 years agoPost 9
bbeverlie

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The manual is the best place to start but if you want to see
how it realy works due the following. Unplug the motor connectors
from the 4-n-1 both the main and tail motors ( be sure you pay attention
to which one goes where so you can plug them back in ) now you
can turn on your TX and plug your battery in to the 4-n-1 and you
will have full servo control to see how different stick actions cause
the servo's to move including idel up ( which should only be used
for inverted flight ) you will notice a quick snap of the rotors when you hit
the idel up! this is where the neg pitch comes to play.

Curiosity = spare parts

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11-14-2005 07:49 PM  12 years agoPost 10
Stack

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bbeverlie: The Idle Up switch is not only meant for inverted flight. It is meant for general flight as well. Switching to "Idle Up" is similar to running in governor mode where you would have a higher and in the Blade's case, more consistent head speed.

The only stick you will see a physical difference in your throws on is the collective stick (negative pitch).

The throttle and pitch curves change in idle up.

Again .. flying with idle up "on" is the way to go once you understand it. Just remember to go back to normal when landing. Nothing to be afraid of.

Some of you keep referring to the manual. Perhaps he read it and does not understand?! It's not exactly the best manual in the world.

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11-15-2005 12:27 AM  12 years agoPost 11
lryansl

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"Please be sure to never switch into stunt mode without having powered the main and tail motors up in normal mode first. The abrupt start could cause damage to the gears, motors or possibly even the 4-in-1 unit."

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11-15-2005 12:35 AM  12 years agoPost 12
Cameron

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Stack
Some of you keep referring to the manual. Perhaps he read it and does not understand?! It's not exactly the best manual in the world.
I Agree. I think they could have done a better job on the manual

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11-15-2005 01:04 AM  12 years agoPost 13
Caliber1

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Actually, I think they did a pretty good job on the manual. Try some of the kyosho manuals and you will see what I am talking about.

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11-15-2005 01:54 AM  12 years agoPost 14
Cameron

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Ya but they dont really say much about using the idle up and how to use it properly. They could have done a little better. Just a little

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11-15-2005 02:27 AM  12 years agoPost 15
C89ZX7R

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how about sitting on the couch with the blade on the table 2 feet in front of me . oops did i hit the switch lol gotta love curisoty . scared the living sh!t out of me . lol

p.s. i was leaning foward when i hit idle up .

Wanted Broken Xbox's and PS2's !!!!!!

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11-15-2005 03:40 AM  12 years agoPost 16
BikeNBoatN

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Once I started using Idle-up, I won't go back to flying in Normal anymore. I don't do inverted stuff yet, just normal hovering and FF. Makes it much easier to lose altitude w/o losing cyclic control, which is the problem I used to have with flat bottom blades in the wind when I only used Normal mode. The higher head speed makes the controls much crisper and responsive. The only downside is in case of emergency, remembering to immediately flip to Normal mode before chopping the left stick. Using a brass shear pin instead of the steel pin helps quite a bit in minimizing the 'crazy chicken dance' on the ground.

Brent.

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11-15-2005 01:50 PM  12 years agoPost 17
Stack

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Thanks Wings .... the idle up switch is the one area they kind of left to your imagination.

Caliber: they could have done better. If they did, these questions wouldn't come up.

BikeNBoat makes some great points. It is definitely easy to forget that switch when you are fighting with your thumbs while your heli is making it's way to the ground. Just another aspect that comes with time...

When I converted my Blade over to my computer radio I *thought* I had programmed in my Idle 1 and 2. Well, I didnt..and when I hit that switch the heli took off like a rocket! Unfortunately I was in my garage. It was definitely quite a scene. A few dollars later I was back in action but I now have a nice ding in the ceiling.

Anyway ... have fun!

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11-16-2005 01:36 AM  12 years agoPost 18
rdlohr

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Take some time understanding the graphs in the back of the manual. Once you get what they are trying to tell you it becomes very clear.


-#-> Still Flyin, crashin and lovin it!

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11-16-2005 02:25 AM  12 years agoPost 19
Cameron

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When I converted my Blade over to my computer radio I *thought* I had programmed in my Idle 1 and 2. Well, I didnt..and when I hit that switch the heli took off like a rocket! Unfortunately I was in my garage. It was definitely quite a scene. A few dollars later I was back in action but I now have a nice ding in the ceiling.

LoL did u happen to take any pictures of your helicopter going through your roof. I can see someone doing that. It would be funny to see them panicing and going crazy but i would be so pissed off at myself and i know i would have been cusing up a storm. Was difficult to change your cp over to your computer radio? Did you change the reciever, servos and gyro?

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11-16-2005 02:39 AM  12 years agoPost 20
Stack

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No pics .. sorry! The damage wasnt that bad as I managed to get it to the floor with the skids down.

No, changing over to my Eclipse 7 was fairly easy. All stock electronics worked. It was just a matter of programming the radio to work well with the blade. Made a huge difference as I could now add expo and create throttle and pitch curves that suited my flying style.

Made a huge difference!

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