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11-13-2005 08:24 PM  12 years agoPost 1
trey3670

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this is a long read but if anyone has ever gotton ripped off by someone on the net it will give ya a warm fuzzy!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399203

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11-14-2005 03:08 PM  12 years agoPost 2
Camp

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Boy, this gets around, I saw a link on VW Vortex too.

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11-14-2005 05:43 PM  12 years agoPost 3
NitroSpazzz

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He ripped guy off, they posted EVERYTHING you could ever want to know about the guy then some. Theres pics of him, girlfriend, adress, SS, everything. Camp you said you saw it on VW Vortex...what kind of car you got? I have a lil 96 GTI and love it

Blake

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11-15-2005 12:58 AM  12 years agoPost 4
trey3670

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well honestlly it is a new era of internet trade. the deal started out by him advertiseing the gears for sale BRAND NEW for 100$,then he gets the guys check and deposits it then writes him back saying their was a typo in the add and the real price is 125$. this is where it goes south,the buyer then tells him to refund his cash and the drama begins!
they give this guy a week or so to refund the money,meanwhile he posts something to the effect of "what ya gonna do about it? these threats arent helping"
the threats of beatings and insertion of gears into the guys body cavitys comince.

then a member of the site chimes in and makes it very clear that he needs to refund the money,very soon or else,in a very polite manner.
no dice the guy still doesnt carry through and is cocky.
so they let him know how serious they are by posting some info,ip addy etc,simple stuff .
the guy still doesnt get it and acts tough.
so they go a step further,they let him know they have his addy and his screen name on other boards,as well as ebay,guys got like 8 deals on ebay and 3 negatives and one nuetral.
still doesnt get it.
more threats of violence surface and charlie wenzel has his picture posted and photochopped with some ah intresting aditions,my fav is the looter one!

guy finally decides that maybe they are serious so he backs down a lil bit and decides to send the gears.
the original buyer then hears that they are used! he refuses shipment and more threats and photochopping,then they post pictures of him,his family,the bussiness where he works,his girlfreind,and I think his sister even made it.
they also leak his cell phone and he starts getting calls from all over(this thread has allmost a million views! so you can imagine how many calls he is getting!) and text messages to.
they post pictures of him getting stuck on the beach threaten and eventually do email mom n dad.
he sends a 7-11 money order(found out that that is not a safe way to get money from a buyer) when he was specificlly asked to send a postal.
he has posted an apology that sounds more like hes ticked that he got caught than sorry,and the buyer is waiting for the check to clear.

it doesnt sound so bad hear but keep in mind they posted pictures of his g-freind,threatened to call in false reports to the pd that he was carrying a firearm,they posted high school year book photos,they linked every other forum he was a member of to this thread,found out his phone number,even posted part of his ss number! there where quite a few people that are local to him that spoke up and said they knew him a couple comented about how his folks where good people and didnt deserve the son they have.
they even exposed the fact that he and some freinds stold some gas while driveing around in moms corvette with out permission. these guys OWNED
this guy over 125$.

hopefully the other scum on the net will read about it and think twice about scamming.

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11-15-2005 01:21 AM  12 years agoPost 5
Harbinger

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his name wasnt Fortin was it?

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11-15-2005 01:28 AM  12 years agoPost 6
trey3670

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nope charlie wenzel,as in in you have been wenzeled!

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11-15-2005 02:17 AM  12 years agoPost 7
NitroSpazzz

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He pissed off the wrong guy. And someone must have been bored or angry to go as far as they did. Hopefully it teaches him and everyone who sees it to think twice before messing with people.

Blake

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11-15-2005 02:28 AM  12 years agoPost 8
rob10000

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He pissed off the wrong guy.
Nope, he did his stunt on the wrong forum. PBB is probably one of the most hardcore forums on the 'net. They have no tolerance for crap as a group. If RR was Pirate, you wouldn't get any respect unless you CNC'd your own parts, and noone would ever post pictures of their worthless bling for fear of being called out on it!

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11-15-2005 09:27 AM  12 years agoPost 9
bagobitz

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saddleworth,lancs,UK

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conman charlie wenzel
the pirate site appeared to crash yesterday and now requires registration to access the thread. (DOSsed ? )
regulars were posting about how slow the site was going and one guy claimed that the page -count went up 30 while he was reading it. Totally awesome how they closed ranks against this a**hole !
What does amaze me ,is that in 60+ pages, no-one had actually physically "persuaded" the cretin to behave!
(perhaps he has it coming AFTER the victim gets his cash
I got as far as page 20, in 2shifts, before jumping to 68? and finding the saga continues..........
I think RR members are usually more restrained than these 4x4 guys-it couldn't happen here....could it??
Thanks TREY3670, -highly entertaining and educational link.

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11-17-2005 04:09 AM  12 years agoPost 10
Ray Nemovi

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oh hell no

Ray N.

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11-17-2005 04:46 AM  12 years agoPost 11
DSA

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I love it.
the threats of beatings and insertion of gears into the guys body cavitys comince.
Nice, politically correct, way of doing business.

Loving my new 2006 Honda Ridgeline RTL

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11-17-2005 04:55 AM  12 years agoPost 12
trey3670

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well see i think thats part of the heli comunity,notice I didnt say that was whats wrong with it!,we just are not that close nit,and I have seen quite a few posts on here with someone saying they have been ripped and then someone on here,usually a longtime member,comes back wit
"thats why i dont do business on the net" or something to that effect.
where as these guys generally do back each other up.

it truelly is a 4 wheelin thing,yah they compete an all but they do help each other out.
notice through all 60 some odd pages i read not one person said anything about,thats what ya get for doing the internet thing?
if we back each other up anything is possible

as far as insertions or beatings go,witch would you rather have? being the famous charlie wenzel or a black eye?
that guys not gonna be able to do anything without this haunting him

how many employers you think google their potential employees? its becomeing standard practice.

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11-17-2005 09:26 AM  12 years agoPost 13
bagobitz

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I told my daughter about this antisocial guy .
She said that in Japan, a young woman 's dog crapped on the floor of a railway carriage. she refused to clear it up. The other occupants let her get off,not before they had snapped her and pooch with their camera-phones. This was duly posted (on the net?) people made her life such a misery that she topped herself! Drastic, but Darwinism is We discissed this. our conclusions- If she was so arrogant and antisocial to leave her dog**** in the first place, the other travellers could have refused her exit and called for police/officials to get her at the next stop, Or they could have picked it up for her and forcibly put it in her bag or pocket (ok, leave it wrapped)
As it was, the silly cow wouldn't make a public apology and exited the civilisation that she abused. That's democracy in action - freedom to do your own thing, but be aware of the concequences.

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