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11-07-2005 06:36 AM  14 years ago
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Stet

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Global Warming in Paris
All those fires are gonna melt the ice caps if they don't get them under control soon.

It is finally bad enough that it is being reported in our media, who would certainly rather tell a different story.

Latest reports say that police are worried that the gangs will start using heavy weapons, like the ones they routinely confiscate from these gangs during drug raids.


Now this recent quote from France is truly amusing:

"Later in the evening, Muslim leaders also called for an end to violence, issuing a religious edict, or fatwa, against rioting."
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11-07-2005 10:28 AM  14 years ago
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Latest reports say that police are worried that the gangs will start using heavy weapons, like the ones they routinely confiscate from these gangs during drug raids.
Like what? Eclairs.
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11-07-2005 11:41 AM  14 years ago
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Next time Germany invades France, I for one think we should sit back and let them have it.
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11-07-2005 05:05 PM  14 years ago
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Not eclairs, much worse, poodle launchers!

Actually they have been finding grenades and automatic rifles.

Now reported that copycat muslims have started fires in Belgium and Germany. I have a feeling the Germans won't be as passive as the French.

Just announce that anyone with a firebomb will be shot on sight. That should stop the sillyness.
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11-07-2005 08:53 PM  14 years ago
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More organised crime being discovered, using the riots as cover. Still, having lived in paris for a bit, I'm suprised it's taken as long as it has for this to happen. They're treated like second class citizens to a much greater extent than in imagined much more so than in the UK or US. Liberté, Egailté, Fraternité. Unless you are emmigré, it seems.
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11-07-2005 08:59 PM  14 years ago
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All those fires are gonna melt the ice caps if they don't get them under control soon.

It is finally bad enough that it is being reported in our media, who would certainly rather tell a different story.

Latest reports say that police are worried that the gangs will start using heavy weapons, like the ones they routinely confiscate from these gangs during drug raids.


Now this recent quote from France is truly amusing:

"Later in the evening, Muslim leaders also called for an end to violence, issuing a religious edict, or fatwa, against rioting."
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

You really do have a one track mind, don't you?
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11-07-2005 10:53 PM  14 years ago
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Ed,

The french treat everyone as second class. Fortunately for me, when I lived there my french was fluent enough that they did not know I was an American. It still sucked living there. That was back in 67, 68 and 69. There was some serious unrest at the time, brought on by the trendy political ideology of the anarchists. DeGaulle took care of that problem summarily and we were planning to exit to Italy if civil war broke out. What a mess.

Yeah pooch it's nice seeing America's friend France get what it deserves, from the same enemy, islamofacism and arab sub-culture. You can go back to sleep now. Seems you too are of a single track perspective of bush bashing. Are you French? Your profile is as rich as your intellect.

It keeps gettin worse, how much will France take?
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11-07-2005 11:12 PM  14 years ago
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I don't think it's quite as bad as the media are enjoying. We're still a bit off LA riots

French is much better the further south you go. Leave Parisienne intellectualism well behind, and enjoy Burgundy of Gasgoney or somewhere. Two of my favourite places in the world, infact. Weren't you in Toulousse Stet? It's beautiful country down there, stretching down to the Pyraneese.

As the english middle-class dinner party cliché goes, "Love the chese and wine, don't like the people".
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11-08-2005 12:15 AM  14 years ago
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I don't really care much about Bush, I think he's a bit of a misguided cretin but that's about it. I don't go out of my way to point that out to people.

What really gets me is your incessant racist ramblings. You never shut up about how the Arabs - and occasionally those damn frogs - are the cause of all the world's problems.

I'm not French by the way.
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11-08-2005 01:31 AM  14 years ago
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Pooch you are confusing race and culture

I was close friends with 4 Lebanese arabs for about 20 years. One day it dawned on me how totally jacked their culture was, after listening to them blame jews for Sep 11, and after listening to their cultural perspective during all those years (kill the jew). Their abuse of women and their incessant boasting of their experiences in the lebanon war to name only two of the most offensive perspecives. They were Shiite Amal militia fighters who were lucky enough to be sent to the US by their parents before they were killed in the civil war.

My experience with Arabs for the most part indicates that they support this mentality and a distain for the west, while they sit here in America and enjoy the freedoms our enemies want to destroy. Their homelands are ruled by totalitarian regimes who will kill anyone who does not tow the line.

I have friends from UAE who are the antithesis of this attitude. That is why UAE and Kuwait are our allies.

Some think this war is all wrong, and unjustified. And this includes the French government which was on the take with the UN scandals.

Now we will see how France puts down their own insurgents.

So no, racist is not really the right word. Overstated, insensitive, conservative or outspoken would be more fitting.
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11-08-2005 09:57 AM  14 years ago
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Overstated, insensitive, conservative or outspoken would be more fitting.
haha, amen to that
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11-08-2005 05:28 PM  14 years ago
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I honestly can see where you're coming from, I just think some of the stuff you say (not necessarily confined to this post) does cross the boundary into racism.
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11-09-2005 02:21 PM  14 years ago
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HISTORY TEST

Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the
following multiple choice test. The events are actual
Events from history. They actually happened!

Do you remember?

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by

a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. a Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and
40

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were
kidnapped and massacred by

a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:

a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were
kidnapped in Lebanon by:

a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown
up by:

a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked
and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and
thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:

a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and
a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was
murdered by:

a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first
time by:

a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania
were bombed by:

a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild
Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were
used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers
and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US
Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the
passengers.
Thousands of people were killed by:

a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer
Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in
Afghanistan against:

a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and
murdered by:

a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of
17 and 40

And guess who just bombed London?

Is it Racisim or just cold hard facts that you are simply not willing to accept? This is a war that has been going on since the beginning of time, it has simply found it's way to our shores, and we are now in the process of beating it back....again.

Stet, I believe that I fall into the same category as you

Pooch, I respect your stance, yet realize that a majority of the current world problems are a direct result of the actions of these individuals (not all)

Let the ranting begin

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11-09-2005 03:38 PM  14 years ago
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I (worker no. 786947-H) conclude that all muslims between 17-40 are extremeists and should be killed.

Christ alive
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11-09-2005 05:23 PM  14 years ago
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That's not the message Ed, no sense in extrapolating it to something to meet some PC endgame argument.

The message is to stop glossing over the fact that we are at war with islamofacism.

The Imam of the French mosque issues a "Fatwa" that rioting is bad. Some of the mosques have been promoting this garbage since day one. We know well that this was happening in London Central Mosque for instance. But we are supposed to respect their religion and culture.

After all, the French muslims (who are rioting) are supposed to respect islamic law, but not the law of the land?

Look, the parents of these rioters came from oppressive countries and I am sure they are happy to be in France and not in Algeria or wherever the escaped from. But the youths did not grow up in that repressive environment so they have no perspective.

They say that they are rioting because of a lack of opportunity and education.

Consider their opportunities and education in the land from which their parents came.

Also consider that if they rioted there, they would have been shot dead in the streets immediately

Ed, also remember that in many Arab countries, it is common opinion that all jews should be murdered and Isreal should be destroyed. But the left has more sympathy for Palestine than for Isreal.

We are at war with that attitude, held to varying degrees by Arab countries. They need to get with the program and leave the 14th century behind once and for all.

Syria detonates a car bomb killing the ex-PM of Lebannon, and dozens of bystanders. Who is the bad guy in all of this? Not the US, not in my book.
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11-09-2005 06:21 PM  14 years ago
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Ed, also remember that in many Arab countries, it is common opinion that all jews should be murdered and Isreal should be destroyed. But the left has more sympathy for Palestine than for Isreal.
That's irrelevant.

Thw rioting in France is not just Islamic or arab, it's from most immigrants. The fact that most most of them are Islamic can make it easy to get obsessed with this being an islamic uprising (or french insurgency as you put- please, lets not wet ourselves). You talk about the Law of the Land, well segregation was the law of the land in the US, but the law was changed because of protests. The Law is an ass, remember. So many of these guys are going about it the wrong way, and warrant a tough response, but the fact remains that they are treated like second class citizens and this has turned into a protest for social reform, which the French authorities have indeed taken notice off.
Consider their opportunities and education in the land from which their parents came.
So they should settle for being second class citizens in their new country even after 3rd generation? I guess the afro carribean US population were being presumptuous little savages when they asked for equality too.

I've watched the US press coverage on this, and it's somewhat predictably being painted as some sort of Islamic extremist uprising. As Churchill said, "A lie gets half way around the world before the Truth has got its pants on".

I'm not denying that there is no islamic problem, but you seem hell bent on extrapolating it into being the root of every problem, and any disquiet from a muslim population is in the name of overthrowing democracy in the name of Allah.

This next generation, that you say have no perspective, perhaps instead realise that there is no reason for them to be treated like second class citizens in their society. Status Quo is not an arguement.
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11-09-2005 06:34 PM  14 years ago
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"Extremist" Muslims are just the tool the globalists use to get us to that ever closer police state.

The masses will give up liberty for "security" any day... But they have to have something to be "secure" from.

I'd like to know who is actually funding them (extremists).
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11-09-2005 06:54 PM  14 years ago
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Note: I disagree with the above should anyone feel like painting is 'lefty crackpots' with the same brush...
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11-09-2005 07:00 PM  14 years ago
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What is there to disagree with?

You disagree that the majority of people are more interested in security then liberty when it comes down to it?

Do you also disagree that these extremists muslims would be a good tool to impose stricter laws, restricting our inherent freedoms?

And if both of those are worth considering... You would have to wonder if the motive is worth funding to some people.

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11-09-2005 07:04 PM  14 years ago
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I don't agree with what you're hinting at which seems to be that it's a large conspiracy in the name of establishing a police state.

It's entirely possible for governments to take advantage of our fears and overstating the threats in some cases, but it's quite a large leap to turn that into, effectivelly, 9/11 is the product of the Bliderberg group, for example.
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