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10-16-2005 11:35 PM  13 years agoPost 1
Caliber1

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Hey guys, trying to get a feel for the best Heli fuel to use for my OS32 and OS37. Would like to do a quick survey on your preferred type/brand and why you like it. Thanks!

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10-17-2005 12:24 AM  13 years agoPost 2
Al Magaloff

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Cool Power, Magnum, Wildcat, to name a few. I would use any fuel someone else payed for. That is the best, IMO. 30% for me, never cared for the 15%.

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10-17-2005 12:38 AM  13 years agoPost 3
shesha

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dont have a choice really whats available here trinity and cool power think i heared they have magnum also all 30% never tried anything else so far.

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10-17-2005 01:47 AM  13 years agoPost 4
dkshema

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Sig 15% Champion heli fuel works for me, so did Wildcat 15% Heli fuel.

The 37 was really humming today in my Caliber -- one of my buddies tached the head at 2100+ RPM, consistently. Man does that 37 haul!

Dave

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10-17-2005 03:26 AM  13 years agoPost 5
BARTGALAMBOS

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I use Cool Power 15%
Hi Folks,
I use Cool Power 15%. I have 30% also, but didn't see much difference. I'm getting my Raptor 90SE broke in and all set up, so I may be able to tell a difference soon. The question is: is the 30% worth the extra cost?

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10-17-2005 03:37 AM  13 years agoPost 6
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There really is not a great difference in power, but a marked difference in tuning, along with a higher oil content.

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10-17-2005 03:58 AM  13 years agoPost 7
RCHeliWorks

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i run 15 in my 30's and 30 in all my 50 and aboves

also there is only one fuel out there! heres a link

http://magnumfuels.com/


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10-17-2005 04:06 AM  13 years agoPost 8
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I only use magnum 12 %, in all my helis, and never a problem!~

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10-24-2005 01:21 AM  13 years agoPost 9
Caliber1

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Very strange...
Switched from Powermaster 15% heli fuel to Cool Power 15% heli fuel this weekend on Caliber 30/OS32. Engine started normally, however, when I went to run her up I could not achieve enough power/head speed to lift her off (full throttle). There was no smoke at all. Shut it down, checked everything and started it up again. Same thing. Adjusted the needle valve from 1.5 turns to 2.0 turns thinking it was too lean. Same problem. Readjusted the needle valve from 2.0 turns to 1.0 turns and viola!, it worked. Plenty of power (and smoke) to get it in the air. I was surprized at the difference in the fuels. Only other thing that may have been a contributor, was that the week before, I injected a teaspoon of after run engine oil through the fuel inlet line into the engine. I'm curious if the mix of after run engine oil diluted the fuel with the oil making it too rich until it was purged. Comments?

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10-24-2005 03:47 AM  13 years agoPost 10
shesha

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Not nearly the same thing, I tried morgan fuel a while back on my nitro 1/8 novarossi engine, I dropped about a teasponful of oil in there for a month storage.

When I fired up the car a month later, I had to readjust the needle. Which was strange at the time. After I read through the percentages on the morgan fuel sticker, I realised that it clearly states not to add any after run oil, since the fuel itself contains additives that prevents rust build up in the engine.

I dismanteled the engine flushed it down with fuel and 10% oil and put it back together readjusted the needle to what it was in the first place, and running the same fuel resulted in a perfect afternoon.

My conclusion is that every fuel has it's own set of instructions and adjustments, best to read whats on the label prior filling up the tank.

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10-24-2005 04:10 AM  13 years agoPost 11
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I run Cool Power 30% in mine. It also has the additives in it so you don't need to after run it all the time. Which is nice for me because sometimes I get called to go out to sea at a moments notice. Sorry to say, but when that happens, I have more important things to take care of than after running the helo. I am currently out right now and will be gone a total of 6 weeks by the time I get back. We'll see if CP tells the truth on their label about not adding after run. I have let the helo sit for about 3 weeks before with no oil and the engine is still like new. Original everything, even plug.

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10-24-2005 11:35 AM  13 years agoPost 12
Caliber1

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not to add any after run oil, since the fuel itself contains additives that prevents rust build up in the engine.
I really like that feature of the fuel (Cool Power/Morgan). Reading the label on Powermaster it indicates that there are anti-corrosive additives in the mix, but no where did it mention not to use after run engine oil.

Chad, let us know how your engine made out when you get back from your deployment.

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10-24-2005 05:43 PM  13 years agoPost 13
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Caliber. I wouldn't be injecting anything but model fuel into the fuel inlet. You're asking for incompatability issues.

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10-24-2005 09:16 PM  13 years agoPost 14
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I will definantely let you guys know how my engine turns out when I get back since this seems to be an issue with fuels. I got approx 4 weeks left out here before I get back.
I wouldn't be injecting anything but model fuel into the fuel inlet
I totally agree with this statement. When I was running 1/8 scale buggies, I would shoot after run right into the carb venturi and turn the engine till it bogged down. When I first started though, I used to shoot it through the fuel ine and I had needle issues. After I started putting it right into the carb, no problems. Not sure if it depends on the type of after run you use or not.

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10-24-2005 09:25 PM  13 years agoPost 15
Caliber1

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I wouldn't be injecting anything but model fuel into the fuel inlet.
I agree with that too. The carburertor was the logical place to inject it but that meant I would have had to remove my custom (panty hose) air filter. In thinking back, I should have removed the glo plug, performed the AREO injection, turned the motor, and reinstall the plug. There is a first and last time for everything, and I filled both squares with this one, ill advised task.

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10-25-2005 12:03 AM  13 years agoPost 16
BARTGALAMBOS

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Hi Folks,
Maybe it's true that you don't need after-run oil. I just started an old OS60 that I purchased in 1986! The last time it ran was 1990-91! I always used CP15%! I used it because I was stationed at Fort Rucker, AL and Enterprise, AL is where the fuel is made. The owner used to go to the heliport (on weekends it was a R/C Field) and have people test out his new formulas!
The ol' O.S. ran fine after all these years. I may stick it back in a plank, but the new 60's have so much more power! A Tower .46 almost has as much power as the old OS60!

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10-25-2005 12:07 AM  13 years agoPost 17
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Bart,

By chance how did you have the ol' 60 stored? Just curious.

Chad

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10-25-2005 12:25 AM  13 years agoPost 18
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Hey Chad,
It just sat on the shelf in the model room. I do like my air conditioning, so there I don't let it get to humid. But it is very humid in July/August in the deep South!

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10-25-2005 12:33 AM  13 years agoPost 19
shesha

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Storage, what I do is pretty much the same as what the manufacturer does.

After a complete clean out gas and oil, drop in some after run oil in the carp and turn the shaft couple of turns enough to saturate the bearings.

Then get a zip lock bag, or any freezer bag used for food, since they dont contain any harmful toxins, use a paint brush dap the entire engine with some after run oil and seal it tight, if you vacumn the bag thats even better and leave the bag where the dog nor the kids get to it.

You will have a perfect running engine the next time you run it.

And I know most by know think I must have a thing for zip lock bags, No I dont.....

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11-22-2005 10:25 PM  12 years agoPost 20
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...let us know how your engine made out when you get back from your deployment.
Hey guys,

Finally got home from deployment. Took a look at my engine and there is not a single spot of rust or corrosion anywhere. It still has mad compression and since I had it apart, I checked the play in the conrod bushing and there is no play in it at all. Bearings are like new. Just over six weeks with no after run oil in it. WOW!!

This is what the package on the Morgan Fuels Cool Power 30% says verbatum:

""DO NOT USE AFTER RUN OILS"
Morgan Fuel contains a Rust Inhibitor and an Anti-oxidant for resting engines."

I think I will stay with the MFCP 30%

Chad

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