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10-16-2005 07:58 PM  12 years agoPost 1
webbhost

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Id just like to say thanks to everyone that helped me today with my helicopter, particually mal and craneyum for checking my heli and testflying it for me. Also anyone else that helped out (i forget who it was but one of you set up my revlock so thanks for that too

for those of you that didn't see me flying, first flight i was nervous as f**k and it scared the hell out of me lol.

Gave it a rest, then went for a second flight, this time i was alot more relaxed but i was still concentrarting so hard that i wasnt thinking of anything and wasnt blinking. Also improved my confidence when one of you (the young one) got me to keep doing some more hovering on my last flight when i said i was going to stop, because i felt i would lose it if i stayed up much longer, but i stayed longer because of him asking me, and didn't crash it, stayed in control.and landed no problem.

Ok i only hovered as you can imagine on my first day but it sure beats my old cocky approach to trying circuits with a badly setup heli with a turning tail


Hope to see you all very soon, i might not be able to get down on sundays very often, but ill probably be down on weekdays now, practicing hovering , at differnet orientations until im used to them.

Again thanks to all that helped out.

meh

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10-16-2005 08:07 PM  12 years agoPost 2
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Webhost

Welcome to the club and to flying safely.

By the way what was the clicking sound in the end?

Take your time, its not a rush to full on 3D. Practice hard so you can hover in any direction, then when anything goes wrong you can bail out into a hover.

For me smooth flying first, learn each move well before rushing a head.

3D looks it's best when the moves are smooth and flow from one to the other without any change.

Just watch Duncan and his flight to music.

Steve

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10-16-2005 08:24 PM  12 years agoPost 3
webbhost

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yeah always flying to music on sim but again not the same as real is it.

Dont know what the ticking noise is, someone else may be able to answer that, but i do know that i needed to oil my 1 way bearing on my main gear, checked tail belt and highered the main shaft a little, everything seemed fine then.

meh

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10-16-2005 08:31 PM  12 years agoPost 4
Red9301

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Congratulations on your first flight!

Keep at it, dont let the heli get too far away from you and take one step at a time, learn it hard and learn it well before moving on. Finally, dont listen to me i'm only on my 7th flight

Amazing hobby!

Red

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10-16-2005 08:35 PM  12 years agoPost 5
webbhost

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lol red, nah its good advice you said trust me. Moving straight onto circuits etc, yes i can say it is very fun. But it is often costly aswell as i found out the hard way. Althrough i can do whatever the hell i like on the simulator, i now feel that real life flying should be treated as from the beginning, and take each step 1 at a time like you would off on the simulator.

I will admit in the back of my head i feel that if i was to flick the switch into idle up, i could now give the raptor 30 a good thrashing around the air, now that its setup nicely. But as i said, 1 step at a time, and beings now im not on the simulator im learning from scratch again, it's going to be a while before i am thrashing it around yet

meh

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10-16-2005 08:44 PM  12 years agoPost 6
Adam Crane

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well done on to days flying ,keep up the good work

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10-16-2005 08:44 PM  12 years agoPost 7
webbhost

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adam was you the one that went to the flightline with me on the last flight?

meh

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10-16-2005 09:53 PM  12 years agoPost 8
Red9301

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Yep webhost. Ive found it helps to set targets. Heres what I did

1st Flight; Hovering tail in in one spot
2nd Flight; Hovering tail in and starting lateral movements ending in hover
3rd Flight; Start introducing foreward movement ending in hover
4th Flight; Start introducing diagonal movements and practicing hovering side on
5th Flight; Ditch training gear and repeat all of the above
6th Flight; Controlling speed and transversing from hover to FF
7th Flight; Nose in hover with training gear and banking turns at speed with a couple of pirouettes (yer i went up the pub at lunchtime ok )

Thats my regime so far, with plenty of practice on the sim in between flights concentrating on what i intended to achieve on the next session. Note I crashed on Flight 3 and decided I am far from ready for nose in on flight 7

I feel that setting targets for each flight forces you to be disiplined and progress. Otherwise i may have just sat there for the first 5 flights hovering tail in in one spot.

Next session I'm going to combine the piro's with stopping nose in for a second. The geezer at my club recons its better to become comfortable with looking at the nose this way than trying to take off and hover nose in with the gear on.

I'm anticipating my next crash on flight 8 hehe

Anyways, good luck, set targets and use that sim to advance, not just to feck about. Its great for learning ways to bail out!

Cheers

Red

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10-17-2005 02:43 PM  12 years agoPost 9
webbhost

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my targets are as follows -

1: hover tail in (i just about got this after yesterday but i will continue to do it until i feel that i can do it without training gear
2: hover nose in until i feel i dont need training gear
3: hover at 45 degrees intervals throughout 360 degrees (8 different positions) until i feel i can do it without the training gear.
4: follow the above guidelines again but this time without the training gear on
5: foward movement, backward movement, left movement, right movement, and lastly diagonal movements
6: hovering with tail turning slowly
7: get nice and high and hover up there and follow above steps but with height
8: do some foward flight at height
9: foward flight at a lower altitude
10: backwards flight at high altitude
11: backwards flight at a lower altitude
12: at this point i will have the perspectives of the helicopter well into my head, i should be able to now set up the heli for 3d and start some basic 3d bits (a high loop at first etc)

alot of steps there, but once i have got through the initial fear of crashing and losing control (i dont think that'll take too long as i was much more relaxed second flight) i should be able to whizz through them.

Of course regardless of me thinking that i wont try anything i am not comfortable at trying. I know these things are dangerous and i know they can do damage if you lose control for any particular reason.

meh

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10-17-2005 03:22 PM  12 years agoPost 10
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The ticking noise I heard at the end of my first flight was my knees knocking together. I had my 8th flight yesterday and in more wind than I had flown in todate. Thanks to John Kelly for his encouragement.
Keep up the good work; the ticking will go away (if it was your knees!).

Larry Rogers - R/C Helicopter Pilot

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10-17-2005 04:28 PM  12 years agoPost 11
webbhost

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lrogers when you say flight do you mean take off and land or you mean 8 seperate days flying i may or maynot be just behind you lol

meh

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10-17-2005 04:55 PM  12 years agoPost 12
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Webbhost:
8th time the fuel tank was filled and the engine started. I usually do at least two takeoffs every flight and try VERY hard to make sure the landing equal the takeoff's! So far this has been a blast, more fun than any of the other parts of R/C I've tried. Todate, I've had one oops that broke parts. 7th flight, I landed hard and a tail rotor blade hit the grass and broke the pitch arm on the blade grip. Shipping was all most as much as the parts.

Larry Rogers - R/C Helicopter Pilot

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10-17-2005 05:28 PM  12 years agoPost 13
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yeah defo more fun. I wanted to go back to the field today, i probably could if my dad was there. There "is" a field out my back garden which i tried once, and successfully smashed it up, but regardless of whether that was a mechanical error or not, it was irrisponsable of me so i think ill wait to get to the field again

Ive decided next time i goto the field, i want to be off the training gear by the end of the day. I was hovering very well in my personal opinion and i think i could do it without training gear already, But althrough i feel my hover is good, i also feel i need to improve it ALOT. (nuneaton people may or may not agree with me there, but thats just my personal targets and expectations from myself. If i say i can do something i dont just want to do it, i want to do it well

Hopefully next time i go down, nerves will ease off a little, gonna give it a bit of lift (but not too far off the ground) and keep going for the hovering, until i am doing it to the spot. Yes i did accomplish this for 5+ secs yesterday at points, but im going to keep practicing it until im doing it for 30 seconds + within a 1 metre radius

Afterall they say practice makes perfect.

All i need is more fuel, 1/2 way down my first gallon already and one of them nifty battery testers that craneyum had (bling bling) lol

Probably wont be on a sunday next time which means it'll just be me and my dad, so i wont have the same comfort that i can hand it over to someone if i lose it, BUT i dont think ill get to the point where id need to anyway, i feel i have good control over the heli and it isn't going to do something that i dont ask it to do so im the boss until the servo strips

meh

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10-17-2005 05:35 PM  12 years agoPost 14
webbhost

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hey has that pic of the smashed up heli from nuneaton got to runryder yet?

meh

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10-17-2005 05:57 PM  12 years agoPost 15
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Here you go Nathen
http://www.runryder.com/t208980p1/

regards
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10-17-2005 06:19 PM  12 years agoPost 16
webbhost

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lol i said it 1ce and i say it again.... thats gotta hurt....
my turn next mememe pweeeease!

meh

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