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10-16-2005 07:17 AM  12 years agoPost 1
Mhw

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Are these New Align Blades the same Dodgy ones "Align" said they never made?? Look the same too me??? Anyonw know?

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10-16-2005 08:44 AM  12 years agoPost 2
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I do believe that they are the New Carbon Fiber Blades from Align and are quite good. I think we have them in the store for around 40.00 a great price, not quite SAB's but better that most. I will compare the stock numbers on monday

Jack

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10-16-2005 09:42 AM  12 years agoPost 3
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Im guessing that these blades arent made by align rather that china mob. Unless these are significantly improved, i hope we dont see splitting trailing edges again, and weak root sections.

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10-16-2005 09:59 AM  12 years agoPost 4
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These are not the blades which came apart at the root. However thats not to say that these ones wont also do that as well but these are a different blade.

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10-16-2005 11:13 AM  12 years agoPost 5
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can you tell me how you know its a different blade?

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10-16-2005 11:16 AM  12 years agoPost 6
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10-16-2005 11:17 AM  12 years agoPost 7
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They look exactly the same to me.......

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10-16-2005 11:56 AM  12 years agoPost 8
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I have a set of the yellow printed ones..and they seem to fly ok. But they are definately heavier than the 'dodgy' ones that Align released (or didn't release..so therefore I mustn't actually have them )

doh!! that wasn't sp'osed to happen!

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10-16-2005 11:59 AM  12 years agoPost 9
dankers

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I have three sets, two white and one yellow, they are real nice quality and very stiff. Try a set, you'll like them for sure, not sure who is making them but the quality really is top rate.

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10-16-2005 12:06 PM  12 years agoPost 10
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A cross section would be really nice. If anyone crashes and break a set, it would be great if they could post a pic of the insides so that we could be sure.

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10-16-2005 12:44 PM  12 years agoPost 11
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The reason i say they are def. not the same blades is because the dodgy blades had no print, decals, stickers etc on them. They were just plain CF with no markings.

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10-16-2005 01:27 PM  12 years agoPost 12
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I dont think thats a good enough argument, I mean, they could be the same blades, and align just painted their marking on it

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10-16-2005 01:32 PM  12 years agoPost 13
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All i am saying is that they are not the exact same blades as were sold before. These have markings. The others did not. So they are not _THE SAME_. Whether or not they have the same flaw as the other blades and are essentially the same but with a new look is something i cannot say because i have not had these new ones in my hand yet but i find it hard to believe that a product which align thought was so bad and such a big mistake they had to deny ever having anything to do with it would simply have stickers or paint put on the top and re-released again with the same flaw. Although you never know.... they keep releasing the same flaw in their swash plates but then again they have never denied making any of the swash plates either.

Who knows... Dankers knows his **** and if he is flying them and says there is no problem with them i would tend to beleive him.

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10-16-2005 01:49 PM  12 years agoPost 14
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Well, if they are the same construction we shouldn't have to wait very long to find out. The "fake" blades (no printing) had the habit of the root self-destructing.

As AnnihilaT has said, it would be quite remarkable if Align released the same (problematic) blades after having denied they ever sold the problem blades. One would expect that they would either be of completely different manufacture by a different company or that substancial improvements in construction, design and manufacture had been made.

In any case, all that matters to me is concrete proof in the form of picture of the insides (blade and root). Opinions are meaningless - only facts count.

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10-18-2005 02:13 PM  12 years agoPost 15
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I just received these blades in stock today and they are NOT the same as the old dodgy ones. These ones have brass inserts in the blade roots and they are also not hollow as the old ones were.

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10-18-2005 02:39 PM  12 years agoPost 16
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the brass inserts aint that interesting, as the old ones had the same, but the thing that interests me is that they are solid. Im not disagreeing with you, but how do you know they are solid? Could they be foam filled? When you put stress on them, do the skins buckle?

I know most of the manufacturers Align get to make their products. For example, the cf tail blades.

Dankers, you know the reason why im so interested in the makeup of different blades, Can I ask, where did you buy them? wattsup dont have them yet or do they? Can you confirm they are solid?

cheers

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10-18-2005 02:44 PM  12 years agoPost 17
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PM sent

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10-18-2005 02:50 PM  12 years agoPost 18
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Mhw,

Listen. Im not having an argument with you about something i am holding in my hands. Of course they are filled with something. Do you even know anything about other blades? Sabs are foam filled as are other brands. Who the hell knows what these are filled with but they are not hollow because the skins do not buckle and you cannot press them together as you can with the old dodgy align cf blades. On the old blades only the leading edge had a piece of wood running the length of the blade and behind the leading edge you could press the blade together and feel there was nothing in it. This is not the case with these new ones. I cant make it any clearer than that. Whats your point? Do you want information or are you just looking for an argument. Whats your agenda? You are starting to look more than a little suspicious. Cut it out already. You are becoming annoying. This is a place for information NOT dis-information.

As to where i got them, they came from align. Im a dealer.

Anni

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10-18-2005 05:52 PM  12 years agoPost 19
GoRgOyL

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I had the opportunity to wreck a set of this new Align blades with white markings (doing nose-in hover practice in the dark with just a parking lot light) it was about 3ft up, got disoriented, lowered it down on it's skids but it tilted to one side and can't recover, it brushed the asphalt on idle-up so the blades looked like it was chomped by a shark at the tip.

Inspecting the blades, it has a CF skin hardened by a clear laminate, it is hollow inside but a wood stiffener (spar/chord) is present along the length of the blade, much like annihilaT described. Running my finger along the trailing edge with a little effort, it opened up. It's pretty much the same along the whole blade length. Took a long nose plier and applied a twisting force on the root right along the screw hole, surprisingly, it broke quite easily, much like a brittle plastic would, the root seems to be made up of the same laminate material or plastic.

Rod

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10-18-2005 07:17 PM  12 years agoPost 20
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Thanks GoRgOyL - so basically, the blades you have (white labelled Align CF blades) sound like they are similar in construction to the problem blades from the Chinese manufacturer. (Expoxy over CF, hollow, wood spar, brass insert)

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