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10-16-2005 01:30 AM  12 years agoPost 1
nap_tan

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Hello Everyone,

I am looking forward to building a Vario Carbon Airwolf. Right now what I really want is to get the big version and try to use my own gasser mechanics (Hirobo Eagle 2 GS). I do not have the budget as of the moment to go vario all the way plus I really like the construction of the Eagle.

The other option is to get the smaller version and the skyfox mechanics.

Any suggestions / recommendations from long time scalers? I realize also that both brands have different rotor turning directions. Will this be a big problem? What other problems can I expect to see?


And yes this is going to be my first scale build. Doing as much research as I can. thanks in advance

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10-16-2005 01:27 PM  12 years agoPost 2
Phil_Mart

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I'm not too sure if your Eagle will fit the Big Airwolf, but then it is a BIG fuse so I'd be surprised if it didn't! Maybe the likes of ChristopherJ can answer that question.

If you go the Sky Fox route it will however cost you, much more than option 1, I know, I'm just finishing one.

As to the Sky Fox rotor rotation being the 'wrong' way, its weird! The heli cants the opposite way to what you expect and the control feel is somewhat different. Having said that it flies superbly. I've also got the upgraded 1:1 ratio flybar control head on mine and it is a dream to fly

Philip Martin.

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10-16-2005 07:04 PM  12 years agoPost 3
nap_tan

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Phil,

Thanks for the reply. Sorry for the newb questions but I would like to iron out the details before I plunk down that much cash. My concern at the moment is the alignment of the tail rotor shaft. I really have no idea how this is done. I have seen some fuse that use the original tail boom and just hide it under the shell. I have seen setups with flex shafts. I also have seen the torque tube supported by the fuse itself. Since the Big Airwolf is quite long too, does that mean I have to make a customize torque tube too?

Looking for some enlightenment from anyone... Thanks

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10-16-2005 09:56 PM  12 years agoPost 4
Phil_Mart

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If you go to this link:

Big Airwolf

On the right hand side of the page is an icon that will download for you the plans for the big Airwofl

Vario's idea is that you use the T bone type connectors at both mechs and tail gear box, called articulated joints. These allow for quite a bit of miss alignment between the two components. Two points here though, how would you convert your existing kit to take these joints and I dont like the idea of a single bearing on that length of drive shaft. Even on the Alouette there are two bearings. On my Airwolf I chopped up the tail drive tube and bearings and used that to support the drive shaft, but still using the articulated joints.

Philip Martin.
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10-16-2005 10:00 PM  12 years agoPost 5
Christopher J

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If you're looking at building the large or medium carbon Air Wolf you should consider using the Vario mechs as these and the wood kits are made for one another. Trying to use an other ship may cause problems during the build phase.

I'm not saying it can't be done but the amount of time and money spent fabricating parts could be saved with using something you know will be a good fit.

I can't speak with good knowledge on the Hirobo Eagle except to say that the tail is rather high compaired to the Vario Benzin or Sky Fox mechs so you would have some work ahead of you to route the tail drive. As with any scaler there is considerable work to be done so really the choice is up to you if you want to try the Eagle mechs. If you decide to go that route consider how you will go about mounting you tail gear box, tail out put, how you will start it if the location of your pull start is different then the location of the hatch on the side of the body, ect.

Christopher J
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10-17-2005 07:23 AM  12 years agoPost 6
nap_tan

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Thanks for the inputs guys. Based from the site that Phil_Mart gave, the distance from the bottom of the fuselage to the centerline of the tail boom is around 200mm. The Eagle measure around 200mm. The next thing i have to figure out is how to start the engine since the recoil is way at the bottom of the mechanics for the Hirobo.

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