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10-14-2005 02:27 PM  12 years agoPost 1
foo

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i crashed my 30 yesterday. Flying at my new field i had got some balls and decided to try a roll, well it didnt roll like i thought it would, as in rolling in one place not losing altitude just a quick roll and thats it, nope it rolled all super wide and i almost hit the ground upside down but got it all the way around and then i was all scared and screwed up and dumb thrumbed it right into the ground. It dosent look all that bad as far as damage goes, but its definatly signifigant, lots of the head pieces are broked, the belt got loose somehow, clutch might have fried, but possibly that may be ok. All electronics look ok, but it did hit the ground pretty hard. Oh well it could have been worse, not that bad considering flying for almost 2 years and this my first signifigant crash where i broke more than the blades. I would post pics but its really not much to see, bent flybar, cracked oval link, ball broken off a grip, blades are like damage but they didnt explode or anything.

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10-14-2005 02:50 PM  12 years agoPost 2
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Flying at my new field i had got some balls and decided to try a roll, well it didnt roll like i thought it would, as in rolling in one place not losing altitude just a quick roll and thats it, nope it rolled all super wide and i almost hit the ground upside down but got it all the way around and then i was all scared and screwed up and dumb thrumbed it right into the ground.
Sounds like you need to practice your left hand skills, as in proper collective inputs. You probably had too much collective as you started to roll and that's why it rolled "wide" instead of around it's long axis.

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10-14-2005 02:54 PM  12 years agoPost 3
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I would think foo needs to mould his shield into the shape of a bubble.

Protection form all sides.

LOL

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10-14-2005 03:16 PM  12 years agoPost 4
Sar

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Have you had anyone check the heli to make sure the pitch and throttle curves are good, I figure you've done rolls in the simulator, if it didn't behave somewhat like the simulator I would suggest double checking the setup.

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10-14-2005 04:14 PM  12 years agoPost 5
foo

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curves are fine, i think it was collective managment, and yea i can do them in the sim fine but the sim heli dosent fly the same as mine.

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10-14-2005 04:20 PM  12 years agoPost 6
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10-14-2005 04:35 PM  12 years agoPost 7
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Dosn't look too bad. Was the Foo shield energized? When I crashed mine from an inverted position, I had to cut the flybar apart with a dremel, it was so twisted up.

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10-14-2005 04:35 PM  12 years agoPost 8
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Can you roll in forward flight? Get that thing moving and do the roll, the heli will have a tendancy to want to stay in the air even if you screw it up. That will help with your timing a bit. Once you get comfortable with one roll, try two, then three or four in a row. That will help you get better at collective management and not giving too much positive/negative pitch and bogging the engine.

Also, put that heli up at around 200 ft. when doing stationary rolls and flips. It'll give you some time to recover from bad timing. Also, lead with collective. Before you start the roll, give positive pitch, then start the aileron movement.

If you can do them on the sim, its just a matter of timing.

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10-14-2005 04:49 PM  12 years agoPost 9
foo

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the ****ing seesaw hub wont slide off the flybar @!@@!!!!!

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10-14-2005 04:53 PM  12 years agoPost 10
RQ-1B DRIVER

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That's where the dremel with the cut-off wheel comes in handy Ask me how I know. Ken

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10-14-2005 05:06 PM  12 years agoPost 11
foo

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yah i know but i dont have one

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10-14-2005 05:12 PM  12 years agoPost 12
Ice Man 1

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Don't worry about replacing the flybar, just straighten it by bending it back. I've done this many times and never hade a problem.

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10-14-2005 05:29 PM  12 years agoPost 13
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bend it back ? cool ill do that, thanks for the help !, i Think ill also just superglue the oval links back and any other broken plastic parts.

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10-14-2005 05:42 PM  12 years agoPost 14
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Ice, Me thinks thats too far gone for teh bend back method, nice for minor tweeks (usually from taking the heli to the feild) but not Z bends....hack saw works as well, takes a little more time and you have to clean up the edges with sandpaper but it does work...

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10-14-2005 05:42 PM  12 years agoPost 15
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Foo
Thanks, Foo. That response gave me a laugh. His profile says he is in the Army. Wouldn't want to take that chopper ride

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10-14-2005 06:26 PM  12 years agoPost 16
Ice Man 1

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Foo, I would not use superglue on the broken plastic parts. Instead I would duct tape them Just trying to help you out, those flybars can be a bear to get out. I have cut the flybar and got it off that way too, but you almost need to put it in a vice to yank it out. if you dont have a dremel, mabe a hack saw?

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10-14-2005 07:03 PM  12 years agoPost 17
DRusso

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Foo,

I hope you are just kidding about gluing parts back together! If a part is broken replace it. You run the risk of hurting yourself or someone else. Don't take chances ............................

Damian

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10-14-2005 07:42 PM  12 years agoPost 18
foo

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lol yea i was kidding. anyways i got the flybar out it just need a little force, but now im trying to get the see saw bearing out, this is turning out to be a pain, right now i have the seesaw sitting in my oven i tried 350 degrees and i still couldnt get them out now im try 450...

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10-14-2005 08:17 PM  12 years agoPost 19
Butch

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Sorry to hear about the crash

After you cut the flybar, spend time to work the end well enough so it slides right out. If its jammed or possibly bent inside the hub, consider replacing the hub too.

Hope your back in the air soon!

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10-14-2005 08:32 PM  12 years agoPost 20
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Try not to worry about the bended side. The other side looks fairly straight and you should be able to pull it through from the bended side. Loosen your set screws and give it a yank. Sometimes, the tightening of the setscrews will contort the flybar which will make a little difficult to get it out.


DEFINATELY DO NOT SUPERGLUE THE OVAL RINGS!!!! Why take the chance.

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