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10-14-2005 12:51 AM  12 years agoPost 1
BARTGALAMBOS

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Good Evening Folks,

I put my Raptor 90SE in flight modes 1,2,& 3 for the first time today after breaking in the engine slowly. Wow does she go. I know I'm not providing a whole lot of info, but the cyclic is not impressive at all. I have read about changing the paddles and I guess the TT 710's are just too big. I just didn't think it would be this sluggish. My Caliber is much quicker. I guess I'll have to go through her with a fine tooth comb. Just a little surprised that's all.......

Bart

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10-14-2005 02:41 AM  12 years agoPost 2
Temjin

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You need the red paddle



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10-14-2005 02:46 AM  12 years agoPost 3
AzHyper

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Freya paddles without the weights - don't blink!

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10-14-2005 03:00 AM  12 years agoPost 4
bl8zn

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sanded front edge MA whites

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10-14-2005 03:34 AM  12 years agoPost 5
dgshaffer

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Shorter mains for sure to go with those lighter paddles and it'll light right up

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10-14-2005 03:48 AM  12 years agoPost 6
onebigjunker

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I went with all v-blades on mine and it rocks pretty good!

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10-14-2005 03:53 AM  12 years agoPost 7
RobRoy

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red paddles and a full metal head, my 90 climbs, rolls and flips much faster than stock configuration.

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10-14-2005 01:21 PM  12 years agoPost 8
Mike Wilson

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Bart,

There are a number of solutions to improve cyclic response on the 90 SE.

First I'm not sure what servos you have on the collective and cyclic but you should have at least 9252's or something equivalent in speed and torque. Higer speed and torque would be better as well. You need a really fast and strong servo on the collective like an Ace 1013 or Airtronics servo.

You should definately go with lighter paddles, I have tried numerous blade and paddle combinations and have found that 105mm v-paddles give me the cyclic speed and stability that I like. 95mm v-paddles should work fine for you as a starting point. I would suggest 710 SAB blades or 690 v-blades depending on your flying style. The SAB's are very smooth and track really well. The V's are more aggressive and you will have to manage the collective a little better or you can easily bog the engine.

You can also experiment with different servo horn lengths for the cyclics. I have increased my from the stock 10.5 to 17.5 and found that a little too sensitive. I reduced them to about 15 and like the response.

You can also shorten the upper mixing arms from the stock length to about 39mm and this will increase the overall collective and cyclic pitch and will also speed up the cyclic.

Experiment with a combination of these things and you will find something that fits your flying style.

....led

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10-14-2005 03:45 PM  12 years agoPost 9
damaen

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I found that my TT 710's have a little faster cyclic response than my SAB 710 JK's.
Lighter paddles are definitly the way to go to make it more responsive. I use Freya paddles with a few grams of weight in them.

Henrik

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10-15-2005 02:44 PM  12 years agoPost 10
blade3d

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I think 710's are too big I also have the R30/50 paddles on my 90 and it's pretty agile.

Blade3d
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10-15-2005 02:57 PM  12 years agoPost 11
BARTGALAMBOS

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She's improving big-time!
I went over the Ol' Raptor with a fine tooth comb. I was pretty busy flying my Caliber and Landscaping this summer, so I only toyed and broke-in the Raptor.
Geez, lol, I had the endpoints on the elevator set at 50/50! Don't remember why. I moved the pitch servo arm out to 18mm on the Airtronics servo (pitch), and made a longer pitch pushrod. I moved the flybar control arm to the inner hole and she's coming to life! Set up all flight modes.
I set the governor up for 2000 rpm in flight modes 2/3 and this thing is insane! It's over the trees before the I hit the stops on the collective stick!
I guess I'll have to make a decision on the paddles.

Thanks,

Bart

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10-15-2005 04:00 PM  12 years agoPost 12
Mike Wilson

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2000 RPM

That's pretty high for 8.45 or even 8.27 gear ratios on OS and YS. I would suggest no higher than 1900-1950.

...led

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10-15-2005 08:27 PM  12 years agoPost 13
BARTGALAMBOS

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My Mistake! Confused!
Sorry,
F0/1 = 1650 RPM
F2 = 1750
F3 = 1850

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10-16-2005 12:48 AM  12 years agoPost 14
Mike Wilson

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I agree with Colin. I'm using 105mm V-paddles and the cyclics are vary fast. You can also get fast cyclics with the Min Air white paddles but they will become pitchy in FF on windy days.

...led

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