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10-13-2005 09:43 PM  12 years agoPost 1
johnny b

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I was just wondering.

As I understand, the clone's a waste of money. Some guys speculated you might be able to use some of the parts as replacements to MS parts.

The only ones that particularly interest me are the metal gears for front and back on the tail.

Anyone ever try these and see if they mesh well enough to use? Durability?

Or is this a waste of time?

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10-14-2005 04:49 AM  12 years agoPost 2
TonyTypeS

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I have the 22A and an H2 and the parts seemed like they are the same execpt for the gears and blade holders. I don't think the 22A tail gears will fit the shaft because there is a notch that the gears hold on to. I guess if you file a flat spot on the shaft the gears might fit. I just crashed my new H2 so I might take the 22A parts and see if they fit the H2.

BTW the 22A doesn't fly all that bad. It's a lil heavy and the tail control sucks but it flies pretty good to me.

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10-14-2005 05:42 AM  12 years agoPost 3
johnny b

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Do you think those metal tail gears are any good? Do they save lots of repairs, or am I being too paranoid about the stories I've read about Hornets being finicky and those plastic tail gears constantly having to be replaced?

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10-14-2005 05:55 AM  12 years agoPost 4
TonyTypeS

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It's better to strip out the small gears than to strip the big gear. I think plastic to plastic gears are better than metal to plastic gears. If the gear mesh is set right and if the tail doesn't hit the ground then the tail wont have any problems

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10-14-2005 12:11 PM  12 years agoPost 5
Saob

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I've read about Hornets being finicky and those plastic tail gears constantly having to be replaced?
Yeah if you are a hamfisted spanner jockey and cant fly for toffee then yes it can be annoying. however if you have some building skills then it wont be too much of a problem fitting them. And they only need replacing regularly if you keep hitting the tail on the floor.

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10-14-2005 08:33 PM  12 years agoPost 6
stephan.ernst

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The tail pinions will last for ages if setup was done well and you prevent the tail from hitting the ground.

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Stephan

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10-14-2005 09:08 PM  12 years agoPost 7
johnny b

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Thanks for tolerating the noob's silly questions.

I think many people had frustrations with the Hornets due to the fastidious way they need to be set-up. To a limited degree, you see the same thing with the micro FP beginner heli's. Little differences you wouldn't notice on a Trex or larger nitro bird can make these micros almost unflyable. And the need to have the right gear mesh and the like, plus correct set-up of the tail in general, leads people to post negative comments about what is a great flying micro 3D machine.

So, I'll just keep reading and asking (sometimes foolish) questions, but what I get so far is: 1)set it up stock, and 2) set it up precisely.

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10-14-2005 11:51 PM  12 years agoPost 8
stephan.ernst

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especially 2) I can not understand/believe people who are saying they built a complete H2 on a day or so. If I have a bad day it takes me almost a complete evening only to assemble the tail properly and smooth.

Take your time with assembling, it's worth it

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Stephan

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10-15-2005 09:57 AM  12 years agoPost 9
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I have tried it. Yes the gears will fit. The good thing is that the gears are keyed to the tail shaft, you just need to file a flat on the shaft. Thus the conical gear will never stip or slip.

But as others have mentioned, you will be reaplacing main gears instead if the hits the ground. Main gears are much more expensive. As a result i returned to using back the plastic conicals.

The plastic ones will last for quite a long time under normal flying as long as you dont stall the tail blades. I used 5 bearings in total in the boom. 2 flange ones at the ends, 1 in the center and 1 on each side close to the flange ones. This helps to support the tail shaft better and prevent any chance of the conical flexing which can cause the conical itself to strip.

Hornet X3D : GY401, 9CHP, AXI, MS116+____Evo 50, 50SXH

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10-15-2005 04:02 PM  12 years agoPost 10
RMSLINKERS

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Use the metal on the drive shaft and a plastic on the tail shaft. Tail shaft gear will break and they are packed two each when you buy them. Just a thought to save some bucks.

If it isn't beating the air up it isn't flying

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10-16-2005 10:33 PM  12 years agoPost 11
johnny b

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Where did you get the metal gear?

Heli-fever?

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10-17-2005 02:10 PM  12 years agoPost 12
RMSLINKERS

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I bought a kit only walkera 22a from hobbyjapan2000 almost a year ago. Some of the parts are good like the cf tail boom, metal gears and other things. It is a Hornet II clone but the quality isn't that great on some of the parts. Bearings aren't that great but some of the parts are worth the price. If you go to hobbyjapan2000 you can find the parts diagram at this location hobbyjapan200.com/22ApartslistDiagram.html I just printed a copy as the kit had no manual. I wouldn't order from them as mine had a broken swash and other damage. I never got this resolved since they wanted me to ship it back for a replacement but the cost of shipping one ways was more than a Hornet II swash. The gears part number is HM022A-026 for the three gears. RC-Expert.com sells all the parts for it so check them out!. The gears are $9 but I don't know about shipping cost since I never have ordered from them. You'll have to notch the 2mm drive shaft at the ends so the gears will fit but that's easy. One of the gears is pinned for the tail shaft but can be used on the drive shaft with ca. The gears are good but you'll strip your main gear if you use the the metal one on the tail shaft. Best to use the stock plastic one.

If it isn't beating the air up it isn't flying

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