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10-12-2005 04:22 PM  12 years agoPost 1
HeliHorrible

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Wichita, Kansas 67207

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I have taught myself how to fly helis with the help of you guys on here as no one I know would attempt helis in my club. However, I am having a tracking problem and now that I am transitioning into forward flight I am getting nervous about it. Can bad tracking destroy a heli? I just dropped the training gear yesterday and had a 1/2 gallon of awesome fun with it just hovering and feeling how nimble the machine was without the dowels/wiffel balls.

My tracking is bad though, I played with the ball links on the grips trying trial and error but I can't improve it. I also need an easy way to confirm that my paddles are perfectly opposite of each other...any help here?

Last, when you guys make adjustments do you put training gear back on to test? and furthermore, I want to go to the next mode which I think is forward flight with a higher throttle setting but similar pitch range right???

Caliber 30(3) / JR 9303 / GY 401

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10-12-2005 05:27 PM  12 years agoPost 2
wurthless

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Redding Ca.

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What blades are you using,,,stock? You should be able to get them nearly perfect if the blades are not messed up somehow. Try turning only one ball link at a time, one turn at a time, untill you get it right. Putting tracking tape on one blades helps to make sure you get back to the same ballink. No I don't put TG back on. I don't even turn the heli off to track the blades. Just spool down and pop it off, turn it and put it back on and test. The way I check paddle allingment is to look thru from the side and over to the other and see if they are the same,,not to scientific but it works for me. There are alot smarter guys here that will speak up I'm sure. Have fun,,,,,,,

QUICK! ,,,can someone turn the gravity off for just a second,,,,

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10-12-2005 06:08 PM  12 years agoPost 3
cmsilvoy

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Durham, NC

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Stop and think about it....
Progress in a logical manner....
Mark one blade only....
Hover and see which blade is "high"...
If you have leading edge control, make the link on the "high' blade shorter by one turn...this decreases the pitch on that blade...
If you have trailing edge control, do the opposite...
Do this until your tracking is perfect. You'll get it!!!

It stinks being "alone" while learning.
I just about gave up helis because I couldn't figure out how to make the motor run well enough to fly right. I finally ran into a planker who showed me the ins and outs of carbeurator love......
Now I can't give it up

Good luck...
Chris

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10-13-2005 11:15 PM  12 years agoPost 4
HeliHorrible

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Wichita, Kansas 67207

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loose grips....
I tightened my grips up and had great results, the shimmy is gone at the tips and will be adjusting from there. Lastnight when I flew I found out the hard way my battery in the heli was dead, luckily it landed safely.... I need to get a status indicator of some sort to keep this from happening again.

All of the sudden the chopper started acting real weird...the tail was all over the place...I think the gyro is very sensitive to a low battery and I was able to level it and come down softly with it spinning out of control....and it came to rest on its skids perfectly in front of my house!

What a show! The neighbors enjoyed it, I about sh&%

Thanks!

Caliber 30(3) / JR 9303 / GY 401

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10-14-2005 12:30 AM  12 years agoPost 5
wurthless

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Redding Ca.

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yes the tail usually is the first sign of low voltage. i personally recommend a gem 2000 for a monitor. it has one or two led lights that blink and are very easy to see. you almost had a very bad situation on your hands. one that my have cost your alot more in repairs or worse hurt someone...get it fixed before flying again,,just a friendly suggestion,,,

QUICK! ,,,can someone turn the gravity off for just a second,,,,

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10-15-2005 04:01 AM  12 years agoPost 6
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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If you have a pitch gauge, use it. If you don't, buy one, and use it. Make sure that you understand how to use it, too.

Go through the setup on the bench using the pitch gauge. Set your radio to the point that you have defined as zero pitch and make sure the swash is level. Check one blade using the pitch gauge and make the necessary adjustments (in the Caliber the only real adjustable link is the short one up top that goes to the blade grip. Make that blade zero degrees.

Turn the rotor head 180 degrees, then using your pitch gauge, make the second blade also zero degrees. Measure at the same point on each blade, I usually pick the about the half-way point on the length.

Make sure that you've balanced your blades and have different color tracking tape on them near the tips.

After doing that, go hover the heli. Figure out which blade is high. Land, and adjust the pitch link for the high blade to bring it down. Hover, and fine tune.

Using a good pitch gauge on the bench, and making sure that both blades are at zero when the radio says they should be at zero, my Calibers usually require no more than one turn of the pitch link to bring the blades into perfect track.

Dave

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10-15-2005 05:34 PM  12 years agoPost 7
HeliHorrible

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Wichita, Kansas 67207

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PERFECT.
I tightened the main bolts, and all is swell. The heli spools quicker and without the shake associated with blade wobble.

I am challenged with setting the heli with my 9303. I can hover fine, but the heli's reactions to control input and the degree to which I can ascend quickly and slow a quick descent....i don't know if it is typical for the NORMAL MODE....I wish I had someone that knew what they were doing to look at my setup and tell me if my heli is performing correctly and the sounds I was hearing as the heli moves through the air are correct.

chris

Caliber 30(3) / JR 9303 / GY 401

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10-15-2005 06:08 PM  12 years agoPost 8
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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Does it respond quicker than you think it should, or is sluggish? If it's too quick or sensitive, there are a few things you can do that are simple to calm it down. One is to use a bit of exponential on the controls to flatten out the stick response around neutral. Another thing you can do is to buy and put some flybar weights on the flybar. Move them out near the paddles, it cools off the heli's reactions. As you get better and more acquainted with the feel of the controls, you move them inward, making the controls more lively. At some point, you just take them off and go fly.

Dave

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