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10-12-2005 04:59 AM  12 years agoPost 1
HUTCH964

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My First Comparison of the Quick UK vs Thunder Tiger Auto Hubs!
there was a post here on RR that tells of the QUK Auto Hub so I wanted to show what the fuss is all about!

I have not flown it yet I just put it on the R90.

When you see me @ a Fun Fly come on over too look & ask me questions about it, I will be happy to talk with you!

Next Fun Fly's :
1. Austin Texas Oct. 21st- 23rd 2005
2. Fall Fest Nov 4, 5, 6th 05 if I can get a room? Thanks Rita...
3. Rick's Fun Fly in Feb. 06

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10-12-2005 05:17 AM  12 years agoPost 2
greg

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Here is a picture of one installed.

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10-12-2005 05:27 AM  12 years agoPost 3
Heli-pres

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Nice
Cant wait to try it.
JOHN

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10-12-2005 12:06 PM  12 years agoPost 4
daren

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Haven't managed to lock mine up, feels really smooth i love it lots more enertia left at the bottom of autos

Daren
Using the ground to reverse engineer

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10-12-2005 01:24 PM  12 years agoPost 5
HUTCH964

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Daren
I just knew it would have more @ the bottom of an auto because I was spinning the stock SE hub and then put the QUK Hub on and did the same spin test & WOW is this baby smooth & free spinning...


So That is good to hear that it stretches out the auto's a bit more.

Thanks for your insight on that!

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10-12-2005 01:36 PM  12 years agoPost 6
trvo

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Same results here, with the standard hub I had a hang time at the bottom of the auto of about 2 seconds (stationary hovering, not gliding). The Quick UK hub allows a lot more with the same blades (V Blades) up to 5 seconds or more. Just switched to Radix blades now and get 10-12 seconds easily on every auto, have yet to try an upright auto with the Radix Blades but am expecting similar results if not better...

Trev

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10-12-2005 03:27 PM  12 years agoPost 7
Wa11banger

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HAHA Tim you beat me to it.. LOL I got all the pics ready last night with all the info so I could post today and wham here you are... Good on ya man. I guess I gotta be quicker on my feet

Proud member of the Quick UK, Duralite Flight Systems, V-Blade, & KBDD team

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10-13-2005 06:05 AM  12 years agoPost 8
HUTCH964

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Ahhhh !
Gottcha Agian Rick

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10-13-2005 01:52 PM  12 years agoPost 9
Wa11banger

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Rock on man... I didnt know you had a super blue machine too... Nice

Rick

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10-13-2005 03:31 PM  12 years agoPost 10
DRUMMER

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hype or not..are these things in the shops yet?

drummer

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10-13-2005 03:41 PM  12 years agoPost 11
Wa11banger

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Drummer,
They are not on the shelves yet.. We currently have a few of them out in the reps hands for field testing. We want to make sure we are putting out a great product first. We are bashing and thrashing them to ensure you continue to get nothing but excellent quality from QUK.

Rick

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10-13-2005 05:30 PM  12 years agoPost 12
greg

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eats up better than half the stored rotor energy in friction. To do that the thing would have to act like the front brakes of your car!
You are obviously not an engineer!

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10-13-2005 06:00 PM  12 years agoPost 13
greg

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I didn't say it would. But what you are saying in your original post is a sarcastic analogy that is incorrect as well.
Here is my experience with the new auto hub on a Raptor 90 with 710 Radix blades. On the bench there is less friction on the auto hub. In the air during autos I couldn't tell the difference. It felt the same as autoing the TT hub with 710 Thunder Tiger blades. These tests were both done in a no-wind conditions. I don't think this product is being brought to market out of a necessity for longer autos. It exist because people are having problems with the stock auto hub failing. You yourself have admitted to several hub failures. This product is an effort to remedy that situation.
Whenever you receive a new product or test it I read your posts cheerleading for it. You are happy with the new product and express it. But when someone else is "pushing" a product you frequently have something negative to say about it. I know you won't be able to read this and not comment, it is not in your nature. But I would prefer you pm me with all of your rebuttals.

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10-13-2005 06:30 PM  12 years agoPost 14
RCHeliJim

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In other words, how does a small change in freewheel friction hold the 12 pound helicopter in the air twice as long?
Here is where you are not seeing the big picture. It doesnt hold the heli in the air twice as long, it only is adding that 3 or so seconds at the BOTTOM of the auto - the loss in friction is happening throughout the entire descent, adding headspeed along the way. When someone says that they can hover at the end for 5 seconds instead of 2, that is the extra built-up headspeed inertia in addition to the lack of friction at the bottom. I think this makes sense, but I sometimes have a hard time explaining things. Basically, noone is claiming a DOUBLE auto time, only a double float time at the end caused by the lower friction throughout the whole auto - built up energy. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone - as I am not an engineer as well.



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10-13-2005 09:21 PM  12 years agoPost 15
trvo

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ok guys, I'll have to prove it, I will try and get a vid of an auto as soon as I can, I have some guys coming to our site to film at the weekend if it is good weather. I no longer have the V Blades but I have some Radix on there now...

Trev.

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10-13-2005 11:34 PM  12 years agoPost 16
HUTCH964

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Stephen
Please Lighten up a bit!

There are a few QUK Team Pilots that have these and are conducting test with their own machines and are Very Happy To Do So!!
I posted the photo's to compare the difference in the two hub's ..So other pilots could see the difference Quick UK has made to Improve the Hub!

I didn't ask for a RR Rebuttal’est ; About claims that are made here on MY Thread you have no Idea how he fly’s or his rate of dissent and head speed ! If you don’t have a QUK Auto Hub then you could not possibly know if his claims are what he stated as you have nothing to back up your rebuttal.

Dude we are all on the same team here “R/C Helicopters” We all love the sport with a very deep passion and it will show when we all fly and when we all post! Sometimes when we ALL CRASH!

So Please Lighten Up! & enjoy your day of FLYING!


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10-13-2005 11:51 PM  12 years agoPost 17
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I fail to see the connection with the freshly greased main bearings please explain a little further.. As I see it freshly greased main bearings will add a little friction over the (freshly degreased? ) main bearings that were just removed.. That is until they oh... spool up?? By then they should be nice and warm and getting along good with themselves. Please explain how a change in main bearings relates to lessening the the friction in an autohub. Because quite frankly if my bearings in my heli turned as crappy as a TT autohub I wouldnt fly with them..

I have "A" (as in singular) TT autohub that is good.. It is smooth as silk, and does its job.. But that is "A" (as in singular..) autohub. I have 6 more that are crap... and have even replaced a few of them in the process as well. The one good one on a R90 spins freely and works well.. So lets throw the QUK discussion to the side ( as you call hype) and keep it sanitary...
Guess what my one good TT autohub has better hang time than any of its clones, yes better than any of the 4 other R90 brothers that have crap autohubs in...
So snapping back on target and into reality if the QUK autohub does its job and I do believe it will. IT WILL show a better response to bleeding HS than a screwed up stock one.

Just my .02
Rick

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10-14-2005 01:15 AM  12 years agoPost 18
Mike Wilson

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I installed mine on the weekend and have had 4 flights on it so far. It's as smooth as silk and no lock ups so far. You an really see the quality in the design of this unit.

....led

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10-14-2005 02:01 AM  12 years agoPost 19
Fuj

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Are these available yet in the US and if so where?

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10-14-2005 02:03 AM  12 years agoPost 20
greg

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Not available yet. They are still in the testing phase.

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