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10-11-2005 05:47 PM  12 years agoPost 1
aambrose

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I know some guys are using this mini video camera for framing their still shots with the digital SLR -- we are too and it works great!

I'm wondering if anyone has any advice on how to route the plug/wire coming off the back of the video camera.

Currently, I have the wire routed around the SLR and that creates a bend in the wire as it comes directly out the back of the video camera. As a result, this is putting stress on the wires where they connect into the plug. I'm afraid this will eventually fail (during a job of course ). Does anyone have any solutions or care to share what they have done with the wire coming out the back of the video camera?

Thanks!


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10-11-2005 07:23 PM  12 years agoPost 2
CrashTestDummy

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Maybe try applying a generous coating of a silicon or other flexible semi-hardening compound to form a stress relief. A short piece of heat-shrink tubing could help as well.

The camera works well for DSLR you say..? I may need to get me one.

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10-11-2005 08:19 PM  12 years agoPost 3
aambrose

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I have 2 layers of heat shrink tubing on the wires, but the problem is where the wires enter the plug. The plug is so tiny that you can't get the heat shrink tubing onto the plug to create a stress relief, therefore it allows the wires to bend just as they enter the plug. Eventually one or more are going to break away from the plug. Kind of confusing. Maybe I should post a picture.
The camera works well for DSLR you say..?
Yes, the KX-131C has worked great for us mounted next to the still camera. Just make sure it's locked into position or it'll throw you're camera operator's framing off! Does that sound like I'm speaking from experience?


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10-11-2005 08:48 PM  12 years agoPost 4
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What about having the camera look through the eyepiece?

In the case of the wires, since shrink tube isn't working, I'd go with a compound like silicon or Shoe-Goo applied to the wires where they enter the plug. May require a couple applications with some setting inbetween. Let set with wires slack. After that, I'd use a tie down an inch or so away from the camera to secure the wire with a little slack on the socket so that tension doesn't pull on the socket or wires at the junction.

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10-11-2005 08:56 PM  12 years agoPost 5
aambrose

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What about having the camera look through the eyepiece?
Tried that but didnt have very good luck getting a good video picture.

I'm thinking that something to secure the wire about 1/2" or so away from the video camera may work but I'm still trying to figure out a good method. I think if the wire itself is secured, then the plug wont be an issue. Thanks for jostling my brain! I have an idea now!


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10-12-2005 06:31 PM  12 years agoPost 6
aambrose

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Dan,
Digital SLRs only give a preview of the photo you just took, which makes framing a shot almost impossible or at least very impractical.

Live video out only exists on most "point and shoot" digital cameras.


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10-12-2005 06:46 PM  12 years agoPost 7
aambrose

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Which Canon camera are you using?


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10-12-2005 08:07 PM  12 years agoPost 8
aambrose

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Hmmmmm. I know others using that camera for AP and I'm not aware of any way to get a live "through the lens" view by using the camera's video out port.


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10-12-2005 09:06 PM  12 years agoPost 9
aambrose

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I'll trade you my barely used Sony DSC-V3 for your 350D! It has live preview and is lighter than the 350D!


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10-13-2005 02:21 AM  12 years agoPost 10
aambrose

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Yeah, the 300D + 20mm lens is about 2.5 lbs.


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10-13-2005 04:50 PM  12 years agoPost 11
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Aambrose,

Could you share your idea after you had a bit of brain jostling?

I'm in the same boat, loose wires. If you had pics that would be great!

Thanks,
Michael

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10-13-2005 04:59 PM  12 years agoPost 12
aambrose

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Michael,
I havent had time to try my ideas yet but I'm thinking if the wire is secured somehow to the camera gimble plate (small zip-ties?) just behind the KX-131C, that would help stop any movement of the wire where it enters the plug. Make sense?


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10-14-2005 06:00 PM  12 years agoPost 13
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Great idea. I did ruin my first dslr preview cam by pulling out one of the wires. After that it was all downhill in trying to get them all back in place after deciding I could "fix it" and make it better. I ended up getting a new preview cam and have resolved to take better care.

Thanks for sharing,

Michael

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10-14-2005 06:06 PM  12 years agoPost 14
aambrose

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You couldnt repair the plug? Seems like you could find that plug maybe at Radio Shack and trim the wires and re-insert them.


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10-14-2005 06:12 PM  12 years agoPost 15
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Tony,

I did go to radio shack. They didn't have a small enough plug. I decided to attach my wires directly to the board. bad idea.

Long story short, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed sometimes and my wasted camera proves it.

Live and learn.

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10-14-2005 06:47 PM  12 years agoPost 16
aambrose

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Still got the camera? Wanna get rid of it?


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10-17-2005 01:25 AM  12 years agoPost 17
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Tony,

I've recently cleaned my space since that happened. I've looked around the believe my board ended up in the trash. If I find it, I'll PM.

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10-17-2005 01:58 PM  12 years agoPost 18
aambrose

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Michael,
No biggie. Don't make any extra effort to find it. I was just curious.

I've been worrying about the day that the wires entering the plug on my KX-131C would crap out. Well, that day was yesterday! Luckily, my camera person (wife) and I were out just to capture some "fun" shots. Besides, it was long past due that I address this issue. She was getting intermittent video on her monitor and when I wiggled the wires, the video would stay, then go away, then stay...you get the picture. (pun intended)

Went home and managed to back out the 3 wires from the plug. I had to use a solder helper (magnifying glass) and an x-acto knife to pry open the very tiny contacts on the ends of each wire. (man those are TINY!!! ) Next, I stripped each wire and inserted it back into its respective contact and crimped, but this time I touched each of them with a tiny amount of solder.

Slid on a piece of heat shrink tubing then pushed all 3 back into the plug. After that, I gooped a little silicone around and between the wires. Once that cured, I shrunk the tubing near the plug. To relieve the stress on the plug, I curled the wire forward to the "U" clamp (that the camera is mounted in) then zip-tied the cord to the clamp. This seems to be a more solid setup and working well so far!


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10-17-2005 04:01 PM  12 years agoPost 19
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Sounds almost bullet-proof now. Glad to hear you sorted it out.

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10-17-2005 04:41 PM  12 years agoPost 20
aambrose

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Don't wanna try that test, but yeah, I think it should work!

IMO, the construction of the wires into the plug is very poor and it's just a matter of time before they break (unless something is done to isolate the plug where it connects to the camera). Otherwise, the camera works great! Nice picture quality and sturdy case! It's kind of ironic that this camera is advertised as being bulletproof but the wires and plug that feed it are far from being up to the job. If I ever buy another one, I'll definitely secure the wire so the plug is isolated (maybe this could be a tip included in the instructions).

Just wanted to let others who are using this video camera know that if the wires are getting ragged and they want to "beef it up a little", it can be done if you have the patience and dexterity!

Thanks!


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