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10-11-2005 05:20 PM  12 years agoPost 1
KennyS

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I'm sure all of you have already got past this but for some reason or another I can't seem to get my brain & my fingers to work together when flying backwards. I can do right side up with some difficulties, but inverted is just a b_t_h!!!.

So, is there any suggestions or cheats for me as well as anyone else that may be reading this. All suggestions are welcome


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kennys

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10-11-2005 05:28 PM  12 years agoPost 2
mrNoodles

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Inverted backwards, the sticks (rudder and aileron) moves at the same side same as right side up, but at the opposite direction.

When you´re right side up, you steed the part furthtest away from you, either its the nose or tail, it give right rudder that part (furthest away from you) will turn right.

When inverted you´re steering the closest part, meaning that either the tail or nose (depeding on nose in or tail in) moves to the same direciton as you rudder input.

So it might work if you try to concentrate on steering the part of the heli that is closest to you when flying backwards inverted, and the applying aileron in the same stick direction as rudder.

And then the usual, practice, practice, practice and some more practice on the sim

Good luck.

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10-11-2005 05:43 PM  12 years agoPost 3
KennyS

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Cool, I will give everything you said some thought and put it to work on the sim, I try to put at least 30 minutes to an hour on the sim everyday, and have come along ways by doing this, But inverted backwards is kicking my arss.

Thanks dude

kennys

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10-11-2005 08:32 PM  12 years agoPost 4
BarracudaHockey

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Practice practice practice.

Sit down at a sim session and do each flight with a goal in mind and you'll learn quickly.

I'll credit this one to Ray Stacy (well probably Kyle) but start a figure 8, then at some random time do a half piro and fly a few circuits backwards, then a half roll and fly a few inverted, then inverted backwards, mix things up, its great orientation training.

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10-11-2005 08:48 PM  12 years agoPost 5
webbhost

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i got the same problem.

before that problem, i couldn't fly inverted fowards flight around corners. The way i got around this, is i took my heli, tipped it upside down (engine off etc i just hold it) then i simulate it going around and i take note of each bit individually of what it must do (e.g. find out which way the tail must move etc) 30 minutes later i was doing it on the sim

meh

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10-11-2005 08:52 PM  12 years agoPost 6
MicroDOC

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I find that limiting my sim time to no more that 30 minutes when practicing something new is about all that my brain can handle. After that everything seems to come apart. I have my biggest problems nose in. They say it's like riding a bicycle and once you learn, you never forget. Wish I could remember how to ride a bicycle!

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it!

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10-11-2005 09:14 PM  12 years agoPost 7
zoom boy

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Backwards inverted = forwards right way up, sticks follow each other with a bit of back cyclic.

Backwards right way up = forwards inverted, sticks together, bit of forwards stick.

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10-11-2005 09:18 PM  12 years agoPost 8
Chris Lupa

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zoom boy,
I've never thought of it like that It makes sence. I don't really have any probs with this flying, but that idea has made me realise the simplicity of the manouver.
Thanks!

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10-11-2005 10:21 PM  12 years agoPost 9
KennyS

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Wow, This is all great information. I have been flying now for about 2.5 years and have only dabbled in the backwards thing, but I am hell bent & bound to train my brain & fingers.
One thing for sure guys, this is the better part of RR, you just can't replace the experience of so many accomplished pilots

Thanks Guys

kennys

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10-11-2005 11:07 PM  12 years agoPost 10
JitsuGuy

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Tulsa, Oklahoma

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What really helps me and it looks like others have touched on this as well... When inverted flying nose first, when turning left or right, the sticks move opposite directions. When flying inverted tail first the sticks move the same directions as far as turning left and rights goes... Anyway, that helped me out once I figured it out.

J

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10-11-2005 11:49 PM  12 years agoPost 11
webbhost

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Backwards inverted = forwards right way up, sticks follow each other with a bit of back cyclic.
damn after 50 attempts, it just took 5 minutes to do it without flipping the right way up or crashing into the ground

meh

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