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10-11-2005 04:58 PM  13 years agoPost 1
CHOMP

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I have to do some work on my Shogun, so while I’m at it I decided to move the tail servo to the boom.

I have a couple of questions:

1 – My gyro is already on the tail boom and I’m thinking of mounting the servo just behind it (the gyro is mounted about an inch or so down the boom from the motor). I don’t want to put it too far down the boom in fear of making it tail heavy. If it is mounted close to the gyro will it cause any glitching problems?

2 – I’m thinking of just shortening the existing linkage and using it. I hear a lot of people are using a carbon rod for the linkage. Any suggestions on what I should use?

Thanks in advance,

CHOMP

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10-11-2005 05:29 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Orion_V

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i have my tail servo on the boom and have the gyro right next to it. I don't experience any glitching. then again i'm using a berg rx so maybe thats why.

i'm using a CF rod for my tail control as well. i purchased mine from Sparrow products. they sell a complete CF tail control kit for 10 bucks. You can probably make your own but i got lazy about it. good luck!

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10-11-2005 05:51 PM  13 years agoPost 3
leslie

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Hi Chomp,

Check out my gallery. I have my tail servo (hs-50) right under by gyro(gy240). I've never experienced a glitch with daily flying. The bracket I got from jeremy at rchover, it's worked out well for me and balance is super with my tp1320's.

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10-11-2005 08:52 PM  13 years agoPost 4
davezoom

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Hi...Ive also got my gyro and servo together, no problems at all with glitches. Actually I used the carbon shaft drive left over from when I went to belt drive as the tail servo rod....waste not want not.! Happy Flying..........

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10-12-2005 02:39 AM  13 years agoPost 5
Mike Wilson

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You will not get any glitching as a result of moving the servo to the boom. Jeremy at RC Hover will hook you up with the right bracket that you need.

....led

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10-12-2005 02:58 AM  13 years agoPost 6
OICU812

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Edson, Alberta, Canada

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Best place to put it is on boom, and definetly use a solid rod, the wire is crap imho. Have fun!

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10-13-2005 02:39 AM  13 years agoPost 7
CHOMP

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Vancouver WA USA

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I mounted the servo just behind the gyro. While I had it apart, I put 2 extra sets of bearings in the boom. I used an extra tail fin mount for the servo mount. I was able to drill holes and use small zip-ties and double sided tape to mount the servo. It worked great. I ended up cutting down the stock linkage and using it.

It flew really well today, which is nice.

I'm now looking at using an old tail drive shaft for the linkage, like davezoom did. Now I need to figure out how I'm going to connect to the servo and the tail pitch slider. I probably can find something in the parts box that will work.

davezoom, what did you use?

Later,

CHOMP

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10-13-2005 03:08 AM  13 years agoPost 8
Rum95

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Hey Chomp,

I tried the extra bearings on the boom, but it was putting to much strain on the motor(stock in my case, original bearings), it was getting really hot. Did you upgraded the motor and bearings?

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10-13-2005 03:34 AM  13 years agoPost 9
CHOMP

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RUM95,

I used some extra stock bearings, and I have a HiMax 4200kv brushless motor with an 8 tooth pinion.

When I was flying today I checked the temperature of everything (motor, esc, and battery) after each flight and they were normal.

Once I got it put together, it seemed really smooth, is your tail shaft worn?

Later,

CHOMP

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10-13-2005 04:02 AM  13 years agoPost 10
Rum95

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Tail shaft looks ok. I'm guessing its the motor, its been running kind of hot for a while, I mean like after 3 minutes of hovering around you can touch it for like 2 sec. before it burns your finger.

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10-13-2005 04:31 AM  13 years agoPost 11
CHOMP

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RUM95

I never even ran the stock motor, but I know we wear them (speed 400) out pretty quickly in our flying wings (full contact combat !!!). They always get really hot.

I bought my shogun in a combo deal with the motor/esc at Grand RC (online). They have a deal on the motor/esc set up I have http://grandrc.com/inc/sdetail/1158. It’s a CC 25amp, and lots of people say go for the 35amp. Mine’s been fine, but I’m still learning and my flying is pretty mild.

If you can afford it, brushless is the way to go.

CHOMP

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10-13-2005 04:44 AM  13 years agoPost 12
Rum95

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Chomp

If I go brushless does that mean I would have to get new lipo’s? Right now I’m using the ones recommend by EF(Shogun LiPo 1600 Mah 3-cell 11.1V 7C)


Rum95

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10-13-2005 05:26 AM  13 years agoPost 13
CHOMP

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Vancouver WA USA

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RUM95,

I think you need at least 10C. That’s what I have.

I really don’t know for sure, maybe someone else can give a little help here.

Anyone?

CHOMP

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10-13-2005 06:30 AM  13 years agoPost 14
Rob_T

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Depends on which brushless and which pinion you go for, but as brushless motors are more efficient than brushed motors, a brushless system is actually less demanding on your lipos than the brushed motor is - for the same flying.

Watch the battery temperatures. 140F is about the maximum you ever want to see, and cooler is always better.

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10-13-2005 11:46 PM  13 years agoPost 15
davezoom

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Gloucester England

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Chomp... I had a couple of spare plastic / brass ball joints I got from the model shop and glued them to the carbon shaft. One of the photos in my gallery shows this connection on the servo end which is identical to the pitch slider end. Hope this makes sense.... 8-)

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