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10-10-2005 02:33 PM  12 years agoPost 1
Bllade

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Chester, NY

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I've just about got the XCell gasser that I bought completed (it was wrecked) and need some help deciding on what to do for electronics and servos.
I'll be using my Futaba 9CS with this but was wondering if there are any increased loads on the servos given the heavier weight of the gasser model as compared to my Xcell 60 nitro.

I've been thinking that S9252 servos would work for cyclic and pitch, and that I would give a GY 601 gyro and matching servo a shot at TR control. Any other options for the TR?

I've got a TJ revmax that I can use, would this work ok with a Stator Gator, or should I consider a GV1? Any special requirements for the throttle servo? It's my understanding that the Stator Gator works in conjunction with a speed controller, is this true?

What is idel headspeed for this heli, using maverik 700 blades and the stock PUH 230 engine with a tuned pipe.

TIA

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10-10-2005 03:22 PM  12 years agoPost 2
rbort

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Franklin, MA - USA

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Things to do
To answer your questions:

I now use JR 8311 servos in my 1005 gasser. I've tried Futaba 9202, 9402, JR 8231 and the 8311's and experience shows the 8311's last the longest before the fail (they all do by the way). I'm not sure about the 9252's, someone else who is familiar with them can chime in on them. On the 8311's, the aileron/elevator servos lasted about 330 flights, the collective just went out recently at 475 flights. They were all new together since flight #1000. That is the best record for servos that I have.

601 gyro is a great choice, go with that with its servo and you will be happy.

I use the gv-1 on mine. Works fine though it does have a tendancy to overspeed if I descend quickly and sometimes it takes a while to drop the rpms from higher speeds to lower speeds. Don't have experience with any other governor, and I hear some might be better than the gv-1 for those reasons.

I fly mine at 1500 normal, 1620 idle up 1 and 1740 idle up 2. Tuned pipe will make your stock 231 feel like a 26, so it should be able to do really well. If your top frames are cracked from the crash, don't throw them away. Cut out the middle section and use them as doublers around the main shaft area. This will allow for increased rotor rpms without shaking the model. I've done this on mine and it works really well.

Also another tip is to use JR rubber landing gear dampners. In the event of a crash, you will reduce the chance of breaking the struts and you will not damage the lower frame rails.

Hope this helps,

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4220 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3310 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1618 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 473 flts

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10-11-2005 06:17 PM  12 years agoPost 3
Bllade

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Chester, NY

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Thanks Raja,
I can use the information. I also appreciate your pics in the gallery, they helped answer a few questions I've been having about linkage setup on the metal pro Head and the push pull linkage for the pitch servo arm.

I'm going to have to talk to you about a generator setup as well.

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10-11-2005 08:58 PM  12 years agoPost 4
rbort

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Franklin, MA - USA

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No problem any time
Just saw your post. Let me know if you need anything else as far as what to do on the 1005 gasser and how to set it up. I've flown it alot so I know that puppy inside out!

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4220 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3310 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1618 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 473 flts

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10-12-2005 12:17 AM  12 years agoPost 5
Bllade

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Chester, NY

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Well, seeing as you offered.......
I'm in a bit of a dilemma as to what I should do for a govenor. Should I go with a Stator gator and a gv1, or a TJ pro max speed with their gasser sensor?
I just ordered new electronics today, 4 9252 servos, a new reciever and crystal and I've got a gy502 that I'll hack to a 601 on the way. I've got Fromeco batteries that I can run with the arizona regulator until I get a generator installed, then I'll switch back to standard NICD batteries.

So anyway, what do you think about the govenor?
Thanks, John

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10-12-2005 02:07 AM  12 years agoPost 6
rbort

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Franklin, MA - USA

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gv-1 is all I know
I've only used a gv-1. Works with a stator gator or with its magnets. Works nicer than without a gv-1, but has a tendancy to overspeed during powered descents and sometimes takes a few seconds to regulate the speed slower from a higher speed. The gv-1 has a hidden menu with many parameters and maybe you can tweak it, but there is no good information on what the variables are that you are looking it so its a guessing game.

They say the TJ pro is better as it doesn't do any of that but I don't have any experience to tell you about it. I like the gv-1 as it has a screen to set the speeds visually, as opposed to some LEDs and having to look at a chart (not sure if this is the TJ pro but some governors other than the gv-1 are like this).

Maybe someone else can chime in on other governors for you to compare.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4220 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3310 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1618 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 473 flts

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