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10-10-2005 07:04 AM  12 years agoPost 1
Campbell Grant

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Hi

CAUTION!

After I had installed my Align metal swash plate that I ordered with my new bird, the bottom of the swashplate came away from the bearing whilst I was finalising the build.

I have since given the plate a thorough clean and used the T70 liquid on the part that separated.

Campbell Grant

I HAVE LESS HOVER THAN THE BOVER

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10-10-2005 07:22 AM  12 years agoPost 2
KevinR

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Which metal swash? Is it the latest and greatest one with the silver center part:

Or is it the older version that had the blue anodized center part?

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10-10-2005 07:49 AM  12 years agoPost 3
Campbell Grant

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Hi

It is the same type that is in the picture.

Campbell Grant

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10-10-2005 08:08 AM  12 years agoPost 4
Hellijunky

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the swashplate came away from the bearing whilst I was finalising the build
this happened while you you were insalling it ? were the blades spining at the time ? hopefully you cought it before it damage anything

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10-10-2005 09:22 AM  12 years agoPost 5
Campbell Grant

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Hellijunky

The motor was NOT running (in fact I don't think it had ever been run). The plate just came apart!!.

I think that it must have been a rogue one because I could not see much adhesive left on the parted surfaces.

I doubt it will come apart again after I treated it to thorough cleaning and a careful application of T70 to ALL the mating surfaces.

If you have one of these it might be worth checking by trying to press (with your fingers) the silver bits from out of the blue bit.

Campbell

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10-10-2005 11:18 AM  12 years agoPost 6
zmonte

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Yes mine separated also and it is the latest version 1111

They are so quick to come out with new parts, but it is amazing how they cannot solve this simple problem. Maybe they need to purchase a gallon of American ca glue , or maybe this problem helps them sell a lot of their new parts :-)

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10-10-2005 01:00 PM  12 years agoPost 7
Wenlock

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Campbell

I'm upgrading my 450XL from HDE to CCPM, yesterday I was trying to decide whether to buy an Align swash or go for the HeliUp swash. Thanks, you've made the decision a no-brainer for me! Align aren't getting any more of my money until their QA improves.

Cheers!

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10-10-2005 06:18 PM  12 years agoPost 8
molson666

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Mine seperated also yesterday and I have the heliup on order. Is there a problem with assembly because my plastic one which came with kit also seperated. Both seperated in hover and broke flybar control levers etc. Is crazy glue Ok to reassemble swashplate and will it hold. I will pay a little more and not buy the align brand parts from now on. I have had several issues that the difference in money does not equal the wait time for shipping due to customs.

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10-10-2005 06:48 PM  12 years agoPost 9
dkshema

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At least Align is consistent. Every swashplate design and revision thereof continues to fall apart.

By now, the whole world ought to be aware of this problem


Dave

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10-10-2005 07:12 PM  12 years agoPost 10
molson666

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New to the hobby I was unaware when my first one came apart that this was a problem. Regretfully I was to stuborn to realize aligns commitment in duplicating there error in other versions.

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10-10-2005 07:17 PM  12 years agoPost 11
TrexZ28

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glue it, fly it
I just glue mine and fly. No big deal..

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10-10-2005 07:28 PM  12 years agoPost 12
molson666

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I wish, I broke my second set of flybar control levers when it came apart. Can't glue them to many pieces.

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10-11-2005 12:18 AM  12 years agoPost 13
rcdaddy

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if glue works, then Align would have glued it at the manufacture already

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10-11-2005 12:54 AM  12 years agoPost 14
dkshema

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if glue works, then Align would have glued it at the manufacture already
They did, only the glue they use doesn't work!

If you read those instructions from Align on how to install that inner swash part t (link posted earlier in this thread), they use that R48 green glop to assemble the darn thing, You're even supposed to heat the swash to help you take it apart, according to those instructions.

I've had three Align swashes, one of the original plastic things, and the V2 swashes. When I popped mine apart, there was some kind of adhesive in place, but it either had the consistency of old maple syrup (sticky and thick), or it was cured, but didn't adhere to anything particularly well.

So, take the thing apart. CLEAN it to remove all old glue residue, then reassmble using CA or JB Weld, and possibly some red or green loctite, which is known to be good!

If I ever buy another T-Rex, that's one step I'll perform no matter what -- fixing the swash before you put it in is easier than repairing a nasty crash!

Dave

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10-11-2005 01:29 AM  12 years agoPost 15
molson666

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If I have a heliup or aftermarket swashplate should I redo this connection? Does anyone have others than align that failed.

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10-11-2005 01:40 AM  12 years agoPost 16
turbojoe

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Dammit! I just installled the HS1111 swash on mine so I wouldn't have to worry about it coming apart. I guess I'll have to tear it down and glue this one. I had no trouble at all with the stock one but I went with the bling to hopefully avoid this. Looks like I was wrong. I love my heli but this kinda pisses me off!


Joe

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10-11-2005 06:42 AM  12 years agoPost 17
Campbell Grant

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To TrexZ28:

I agree, glueing the metal swash is no big deal, but had I, and others, not known about the problem before flying the bird, it would have taken more than glue to remedy the consequences after the FIRST spooling up!

To Turbojoe:

I totally agree with you. I too bought the metal swash because I read reports that the stock swash can fail.

Ah well.

Campbell Grant

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10-11-2005 08:03 AM  12 years agoPost 18
Emptyrage

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I too bought an Align metal swashplate because of the stock one splitting and my quick jbweld didn't hold it either. Is there another brand that makes a swash (not like Align) so we wouldn't have to worry so much of it splitting? I'm really curious and interested in purchasing it.

Thanks,

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10-11-2005 09:02 AM  12 years agoPost 19
Campbell Grant

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Empty

Microheli do a metal swashplate, but I have not had any personal experience with their products.

What I would do is l buy the Align but carefully use the T70 liquid that came with the kit to bond the swash properly.

I used a SMALL dab of the T70 stuff on a metal screw, left it for less than a minute (after realising that I should have used the R46), my word, it was VERY difficult to unscrew it. I coated the entire mating surfaces of where the swash had parted and I very much doubt it will come apart again!

Hope this helps?

Campbell

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10-12-2005 08:52 AM  12 years agoPost 20
Kopterko

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Microheli 120ccpm uni swash separated
I have used many MicroHeli parts and have been mostly satisfied with thie quality of thier parts. However, I just upgraded to the microheli 120ccpm uni swashplate on my back up TRex and guess what???? It separated on the first hard climbout I attempted.Lucky me! My heli fluttered to the ground and sustained no other damage. I contacted MicroHeli and they offered to replace it provivded I return the defective part to Viet Nam first... They also claim this is the only incident of swashplate separation they know about, so far. Anyone else have the same problem? My main TRex has employed a Duzi Swashplate without a hitch. Top quality parts from the Czech Republic. Go Duzi!!!!!!

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