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01-13-2006 10:23 PM  13 years ago
bkervaski

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Heh... My feature request; Macros. Be able to record a flight and then play it back...Team Synergy Factory Specialist / Scorpion / Thunder Power / Byron's Fuels
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01-13-2006 10:28 PM  13 years ago
z11355

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edit the macro to remove that last dirtnap move!
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01-14-2006 11:38 AM  13 years ago
iyoy

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The 12mz will be out by april this year. Similar features as 14mz except 12 channels and monochromatic display. Approximate SRP is $US 1,600 which should include 4 9255's and a receiver.iyoy
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01-14-2006 02:59 PM  13 years ago
RCfan

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iyoy,

Haven't seen or heard anything from either Futaba, support or fields reps about such a thing coming out in April!! Where is this "information" coming from?

A mono vs. color LCD costs pretty much the same to produce, reducing channels by 2 would be needed only on the receiver since the MZ software can easily be "restricted". Now a smaller mono, non-touch, screen with a subset or severely limited 14MZ software might be more accurate (something in between the 9Z and 14MZ).

It would make more sense to have either a 9 or 10 channel MZ radio to replace the now discont. 9Z than a 12. In addition, selling a 12 ch. radio would most likely hurt future 14MZ sales, so it wouldn't make good business sense to sell such a radio. Then again, Futaba has been known for not having the best business sense in the industry.
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01-14-2006 03:12 PM  13 years ago
z11355

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doesn't matter if the color LCD is equiv. in price.

It's all about marketing, 'features', and perception.
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01-14-2006 08:14 PM  13 years ago
Shortman

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I hope it isn't $1,600. I would love for something to be around the 800-900$ price mark.Team JR
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01-14-2006 08:19 PM  13 years ago
z11355

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well, if it's 1600 w/ servos and rx, then it's only 400 more than
the 9Z w/ similar.

not the worst but it would be nice if it was less than 1600
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01-14-2006 10:14 PM  13 years ago
Ace Dude

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That still seems like a pretty big price gap between the 9C and 12MZ. Of course, it depends on whether we're talking list price or street price.

Also, I suspect that there would be more feature differences than simply two channels and a different screen. If it was only those two differences I believe it would seriously impact 14MZ sales.
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01-14-2006 10:27 PM  13 years ago
RCfan

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$1600 is too close to the 14MZ price; no one would purchase the 14MZ anymore. It's got to be closer to $1000, maybe $1200 and has to be better than the 9Z but nowhere near the 14MZ featurewise. Futaba can't risk releasing a radio that would compete with their top-of-the-line radio, unless, of course it's a next generation radio.
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01-16-2006 12:09 AM  13 years ago
iyoy

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$US 1,600 SRP
That's what we were told, SRP- Standard Retail Price. I believe that means List Price. I have no idea what street price would be. In the Philippines, the 14mz sells for around $US 2,180(street price) so even if the street price for the 12mz were $US 1,600, $US 580 less is quite substantial. BTW, those prices represent whole sets, with G3Rx, 4 servos, batteries, charger, switch, case, etc.
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01-16-2006 12:21 AM  13 years ago
RCfan

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iyoy, why won't you answer my question on where you're getting this information? WHO told you about this pricing?
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01-16-2006 12:59 AM  13 years ago
jb_turner

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It may be out this year and will be a few hundred dollars or pounds.
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01-16-2006 05:26 AM  13 years ago
fritzthecat

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Unless the new radio comes out on 2.4Ghz it's already obsolete. I refuse to buy another Radio system that is based on 50+ year old crystal radio concepts and that any dweep with a U$5 ebay Tx can shoot down.

Fritz

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01-16-2006 03:35 PM  13 years ago
Ace Dude

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Fritz, I agree. Crystals in ham/amateur radios went out many many years ago. Our radios are (even the ones with synth modules) seriously behind the times. The problem is competition. JR and Futaba dominate the TX market and have had little if any technical competition. Thank god Spektrum has taken the lead here.

DSS on a $200 radio.
No DSS on a $2200 radio so that $5 parkflyer some 7 year old bought on eBay can shoot down your $6000 turbine heli. Priceless.

Of course, on the $2200 radio you can be listening to your favorite tunes while you watch your $6000 turbine heli go in.
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01-16-2006 03:43 PM  13 years ago
z11355

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The Futaba 14MZ theme song would then of course be Pink Floyd's 'Money'

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01-16-2006 07:26 PM  13 years ago
robhurlin

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The 2.4GHz technology is definitely the way to go. As far as I know they were developed initially around car users. Anybody know how long it will be before they have useable range for planks and helis and when we will have heli curves & mixing? When they are fully usable for helis our theme song for the old stuff will be, "Another one bites the dust!"Rob.
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01-16-2006 09:02 PM  13 years ago
BC Don

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As I understand it the problem with DSS (2.4GHz stuff) is related to the radio wave emitted. Something to to with "planes". So that if you are communicating in a fixed plane (i.e. a surface vehicle that doesn't rapidly gain and lose altitude), the 2.4GHz works fine which is why you see more and more of it for the car & boat crowd. But, as soon as you go 3 dimensional you have problems.

So, Spectrum uses 2 separate channels to compensate (and thus the 2 antenna on their Rxs). But for some reason they are limited distance wise.

I don't know what needs to be done to get a decent 1 mile+ distance similar to what we currently have.

I too have been holding out for the last 2 years for something better. The 14Mz is too expensive. I've considered the 9ZHP but I hear that is discontinued and it is missing some basic stuff.

Why can't a radio have the current time in it?

Time to start a new thread "what I want in a radio" (and don't care that much about).
Got Money? Send it to me, I'm a Heli Addict.
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01-17-2006 02:54 AM  13 years ago
fritzthecat

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The DX6 Spectrum has a 100mw output. Field tests show a solid 3000ft range. I would (and will) use it in anything up to 46 size planes. Heli programming is limited but can be fixed by converting a JR6102 with the Spectrum RF deck. You can essentially convert any 6channel Tx with the Spektrum RF module by soldering 3 wires.
According to unconfirmed Spektrum rumors, they released the Spektrum for parkflyers only to 'betatest' the system and to find any bugs. So far nobody has found any with the exception of video downlink conflicts. The max output on the 2.4Ghz band is 1000mw. Expect the 'big boy' 10+ channel system by Xmas. Watch Futaba and JR scramble madly to catch up.

Fritz

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01-17-2006 03:27 AM  13 years ago
Ace Dude

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I've considered the 9ZHP but I hear that is discontinued and it is missing some basic stuff.
What basic stuff is the 9z missing?
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01-17-2006 04:09 AM  13 years ago
Shortman

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I guess you could say a touch screen?Team JR
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