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01-09-2006 11:59 AM  13 years ago
bagobitz

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WELL ! dlewis, you REALLY added something useful to the thread, didn't you, TROLL.

Just because Airwolf can be abrasive and dogmatic,doesn't make him wrong.
just stuff your pacifier back in your mouth,and go forth and multiply (unless you learn to read forum rules and act appropriately.)
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01-09-2006 01:52 PM  13 years ago
webbhost

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althrough i think airwolf has made some very bad remarks, i have also took the liberety to read some of his other posts, and some also give very good advice and bring very valid points - i underestimated him because of one incident, but after reading other posts he has made in which i have not contributed to, and is not an arguement, you may find he is actually very clever with helicopters and knows alot more than just the basics.


dlewis quite honestly i think you just made youself twice the moron with that post, than i once thought airwolfRC is. Sorry but thats just the way i see it from your last post.
meh
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01-09-2006 02:16 PM  13 years ago
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I don't know about that. AirwolfRC just told everyone in another thread that a well-known member of the heli community is faking his need for a wheelchair among other equally brilliant statements. All over a basic straight forward question about multiblades.

http://www.runryder.com/t223948p4/
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01-09-2006 02:23 PM  13 years ago
webbhost

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ok, wasnt aware of that thread... i guess he strikes again.meh
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01-14-2006 03:24 AM  13 years ago
reckless loony

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Did you think about a common servo failure ?? The best built heli in the world is still dangerous...you can't change that. The best anyone can do is to emply safe habits and nothing less.
If you think you are safe because you did a great build ...you are not thinking things through clearly as far as I am concerned. But hey...each to his own
This is true. I have been flying heli’s for over ten years I have my share of malfunctions, which consisted of

Servo failures: At one time I lost 4 servos over 4 weeks across two heli’s. Reason was a design flaw in the servos the internal wires were not glued and vibration was causing them to break at the PCB.

New gyro failure: A brand new JR 900 dual rate piezo gyro failed on me just after I finished setting up the tail. The heli went into a high speed piro there was no tail control. Gyro was replaced under warranty.

Rx crystal failure: Just spooling up when the Rx goes into fail safe and engine goes to idle due to Rx crystal failure. New Rx crystal restored operation.

Rx battery failure: A spot weld in the battery pack had failed just as I landed the heli hence no crash. Had to wait till the remainder of the fuel ran out as the rotor was still spooled up.

Tx failure: Heli goes into fail safe and plunges into terra firma. The Tx is dead due to electronic failure (NOT batteries). I had NO control, nothing I could do.

Lower Jesus bolt failure: Heli tries to tunnel to the centre of the Earth starting from a 4 foot hover climb.

Thrown link: Heli crashes. Doh! Forget to adequately check for binding at extreme pitch travel.
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02-17-2006 08:03 AM  13 years ago
AdeH

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Teaching safety
One trick I use when teaching is when we are discussing that part of the safety is I tuck a finger underneith itself and say look this is what can happen when you mess about.
I find that it has an instant shock value.

The other thing I do is find (via the internet) pictures of guys who have previously done daft things and show them to newbies.

Once I had a guy who really couldnt grasp it. So eventually I made out I was looking at some thing on his heli. Made various comments to suggest it was terminal. I said to him my advice is to rebox the heli and take it back to the shop. He asked what he should tellthe store. I said thell them that you are to stupid to fly heli's!
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03-04-2006 04:45 PM  13 years ago
carbonexpress

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Dlewis, nice comeback, not to bright<--- though. i see from you other posts you have some problems of your own, are listening to this advice? or just shooting you mouth off
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03-04-2006 05:34 PM  13 years ago
AirWolfRC

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Havoc says
I don't know about that. AirwolfRC just told everyone in another thread that a well-known member of the heli community is faking his need for a wheelchair among other equally brilliant statements. All over a basic straight forward question about multiblades.
I just spotted this comment and have only one comment,
WHY HAVE YOU CHOSEN TO LIE AND MIS-REPRESENT THE FACTS ?
I said he was hiding it, I did not say anything about faking it.

And it wasn't
a basic straight forward question about multiblades
Learn how to read before you open your keyboard !!

It's irresponsible people like you that continue to make a mess of things.

It's more than interesting that
your handle "Havoc" is defined in the dictionary as;
1. Widespread destruction; devastation.
2. Disorder or chaos: a wild party that created havoc in the house.
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03-06-2006 07:27 AM  13 years ago
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I just read this whole topic and things seem way out of hand. Not much discusion about how to help someone that doesn't seem to want help, and lots of bickering. I was just looking for some crash pics to show my wife why i won't take our kids when i go flying, when i ran across this thread. I was totally new to r/c helis only 3 years ago. I had no one but a simulator to teach me to fly (hover).
I took my heli the 132 miles to the hobby shop o bought it from to have everything checked over before i even attempted my first go at it. It turned out i had a few things out of wack. they fixed me up, and away i went. three days later I was in buying a crash kit, and then the next day I was buying a new frame set due to a stripped screw that would have been perfectly fine if i wouldn't have needed to replace a few broken parts from a minor crash. I got to the point i could hover very well, and make the heli go exactly where i wanted it too, and then I had to give up my heli to get some extra money for a new baby. Now back in good financial shape again, i just ordered a new raptor30v2. I must say thanks to all the mistakes I made before I may be just a bit wiser now. I wish I had a club near me that i could get some good advice and training from now. of course it seems people tend to learn better when it comes the hard way.


As for the whole bit here about the stripped screw that seems to have everyone in an uproar, the screw may or may not have been a critical part. What about the rest of the build, the setup, the preflight and postflight checks, maintinence, and repair. I am very proud of my work and would want it to look nice, one stripped screw or 20 is still sloppy work. The screw I stripped on my first heli was all my fault, couldn't wait to get it done, working late into the night to get it done quicker sure didn't help me at all. I really missed my heli, even though I never really got into forward flight, i found what i could do was very relaxing, can't wait for my new one to arrive. Too bad the newbies always seem to be ridiculed for their mistakes. I may have gotten way off track here as well, but just wanted to put my jumbled thoughts out there.
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03-10-2006 01:04 AM  13 years ago
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just spotted this comment and have only one comment,
WHY HAVE YOU CHOSEN TO LIE AND MIS-REPRESENT THE FACTS ?
I said he was hiding it, I did not say anything about faking it.
I didn't misrepresent anything. There is a link to the thread in my post so anyone is free to draw his or her own conclusions. I'm not psychic and have no clue what was going on in your head, only what you wrote. Regardless of what you meant, it was in poor taste and had nothing to do with the topic.
It's more than interesting that
your handle "Havoc" is defined in the dictionary as;
1. Widespread destruction; devastation.
2. Disorder or chaos: a wild party that created havoc in the house
You had to look that up? It is also the NATO codename given to a Russian military attack helicopter.
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03-10-2006 04:03 AM  13 years ago
AirWolfRC

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I think the dictionary definition fits you better.

For the record;
Peter doesn't need any defending. He does quite well by himself. His personality and mine clashed and that's all there is to it. Regardless of any other circumstances or conditions.

Wolfgang
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03-10-2006 05:42 AM  13 years ago
JR-ric

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...PlzRicardo Maldonado
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03-10-2006 02:33 PM  13 years ago
AirWolfRC

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You need to say that to Havoc directly.
He is, after all, the one who failed to leave it alone.
He's just demonstrating his handle, I guess.
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