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10-14-2005 10:37 PM  12 years agoPost 81
CustomPC

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Mudbogger,

Austin over at MaxAmps has a sale on his 2100mAh LiPo's at $13.50 per cell plus a $10 pack assembly fee.

The cells are made by Tronics in Hong Kong and the discharge graphs done by independent testers over at the other groups shows that they are good cells.

The catch is that each cell is 58gm which is 18gm more than the Pro Lite 2000 and 14gm more than the Pro Lite 2100. I think they are a little thicker which might make some pack configs harder to fit withing the Logo's frames.

I'm thinking i'll go with a 9S2P pack of these cells on a Tango 45-08 or one of the Neu ORK's when they're available. For my flying, 9S2P will be more than enough.
The pack would weigh 1050gm

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10-14-2005 10:51 PM  12 years agoPost 82
pwkpete

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That's just one vid too, I have seen others that are much more smooth, like I said, look at his 3D Masters vid, what is he really flying like most of the time? Not sure I believe he gets 100 flights out of a pack if he flies like that every time. Andy told me 70 (best case) at IRCHA, 100 flights is almost 50% more / pack than Andy gets with that style / setup...

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10-14-2005 11:31 PM  12 years agoPost 83
maddog72

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Hi!

Ron has a flight-time of about 7 minutes. This longer time is the result of the V-Stabi-System. Without stabilizer-bar he has also more power than a helicopter with stabilizer-bar.

Andy has flown Ron's Logo14 also and the flight-times were the same...

Ron has had a lot of training for the German Masters F3N-Freestyle, where he got the 2nd place. In this contest you need to do "European-Style"...

Since this contest he's moving right to the "American-Style" as you can see on the video.

Markus

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10-15-2005 04:03 AM  12 years agoPost 84
pwkpete

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I also saw his vid with the Xcite a while ago. Seems he was hammering on that too.

Did he switch to TP batteries, I know they were using Kokams on that machine?

I'd like to see the head differences with v-stabi, or do they just connect the blade grips to the swash and take everything else out, including washout? I didn't think it was released yet. Post a pic if you have one please! The configuration possibilities and software interface are impressive. Was that vid of the machine with v-stabi or flybar?

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10-15-2005 10:35 AM  12 years agoPost 85
maddog72

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Hi!

Because Ron is the distributor of V-Stabi, he only uses this system.

The blade-grips are directly connected to the swash.

In the LOGO he uses TP batteries. The XCITE was mine and so he had to use the Kokams;-)

Here's a pic of the head I extracted out of the raw-video:

Markus

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10-15-2005 03:39 PM  12 years agoPost 86
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I was thinking about an Xcite when I had my eRaptors. Unfortunately I only had 120 deg swashes, and I had TP stick packs and didn't think they would work. Nice frameset though! You still making them/how is that going? The Xcite did well even with the Orbit 25, which is what I believe was on there.

I always wondered how much difference there would be between the 25 and the Tango on the Logo14?

Is that another 14 in the background with a different style canopy? Almost looks like FG.

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10-15-2005 09:48 PM  12 years agoPost 87
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More pictures of this head please, I have never see this kind of setup
David

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10-15-2005 10:20 PM  12 years agoPost 88
pwkpete

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David,

Its the stock head with all the linkages removed except for 2 that go from the swash directly to the blade grips.

There is a piece of hardware that interfaces between the receiver and the servos that is programmable. You can tell it that you want the machine to fly like a trainer or a 3D machine or whatever you program it to. Nothing physical to adjust! I saw a shot of the software a long while ago, I'll see if I can find it again.

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10-16-2005 12:52 AM  12 years agoPost 89
maddog72

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Hi!

You can find all about V-Stabi and a download of the software on http://www.vstabi.de. The site is only available in german. Maybe a translator can help.

A short description f the system: V-Stabi emulates a standard-stabilizer-bar with 2 sensors for the cyclic and a sensor to take the airpressure for-and backwards. You can adjst V-Stabi to have the feeling of a real stabilizer or evn better.

Markus

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10-16-2005 12:57 AM  12 years agoPost 90
maddog72

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Hi!

I'm so stupid: the page is also available in english.

Just click on the english flag.

Markus

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10-16-2005 04:06 AM  12 years agoPost 91
rcman

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Guys Thanks that is very interesting setup.
I must of been lose for a while as I have never see or heard of anything like this pretty cool
Thanks again
David

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10-18-2005 06:03 PM  12 years agoPost 92
pwkpete

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David,

Here are some links that KB posted about v-stabi a while back, pictures of the software too:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ighlight=stabi+
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ighlight=stabi+

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Anyone try a new Orbit 25-12 in a Logo14?

I'd like something that is around the performance of the Tango, but for a dedicated night ship... If it's close, they are over $100 cheaper here...

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10-18-2005 07:57 PM  12 years agoPost 93
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Thanks Pete, After looking at those posts I remember seen this one
A dedicated logo 14 night bird that will be cool I hope you post some pictures. I really want to get one togather as well
I was thinking of doing a Logo 10 all dressed up for the night
David

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10-18-2005 08:05 PM  12 years agoPost 94
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David,

I have pics of my night setup on H Freak, in my gallery there. (pwkpete)

I have been flying every night since I got it setup, my 'personal' flying site is a 2 minute walk from my house This is the perfect time of year for it too. A friend is stopping out to fly tonight (before dark, he doesn't have a night setup), so I have to dismantle it again, argh!

I thought a Logo 10 setup would be cool too, just not sure if I stretched it, I could use my 10s2p's (fit/balance?) and 570ms night blades...

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10-18-2005 08:28 PM  12 years agoPost 95
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Can't resist. Here is mine at night.

Jon Jennings

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10-18-2005 08:47 PM  12 years agoPost 96
pwkpete

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My canopy looks pretty poor compared to yours Jon!

You fly w/o glowsticks, can't remember if you used them at IRCHA?

How many drivers are you running. looks like you have at least 3 ropes hooked up.

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10-18-2005 08:59 PM  12 years agoPost 97
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Yes I normally have on glowsticks. I just lit it up to take those pics.
I have 2 1/2 wires on there. 1 on the boom and 1 yellow on the canopy with a 1/2 of a green rope outlining the winshield tied into the yellow rope. 1 driver running all wires off a 340 mah 3s lipo.
11.1 volts makes it brighter. Also a little lighter than a 9v battery.

Jon Jennings

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10-18-2005 09:05 PM  12 years agoPost 98
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Just took care of the battery thing, PQ 300 3s. I'll have 12v by the weekend I've been meaning to do that for a while now...

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10-19-2005 04:37 AM  12 years agoPost 99
rcman

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Pete and John, thanks for the great looking night pictures
I am sure there is guys going crazy because we are messing with this thread. I got one more question and I promise I will stick the the thread
Whos ropes are you guys using?
Thanks again David

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10-19-2005 12:32 PM  12 years agoPost 100
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I use wire from glowire.com and the MS composite glowire sets.

Jon Jennings

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