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05-07-2005 08:13 AM  13 years agoPost 1
Lonesome_Banjo

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Sorry guys! I've been around forums enough to know that most everyone hates these threads, but I'm a little lost as to what to buy.

Let me start off by saying that this is an amazing forum. It looks to be very comprehensive and full of knowledgeable members.

Alright, let's get to business! A few years ago a buddy got me into RC helis. Before that I had done planes and cars but was always frightened by helicopters. I ended up buying a Raptor 30 ARF. It was a great little helicopter. My bud help me get it built and set it up for me. All I had to worried about was learning to fly it.

After about 6 months of owning the Raptor, it glitched mid air one day and came crashing down. I think the RX pack was the coprupt. My bud moved away a couple months later and I never did get a new helicopter.

Now is the time for a new heli! I think I want to try an electric. I'm not sure if I want micro or full size, but would rather have a full size heli (equivalent to a .30 or larger helicopter).

So what would a good beginner electric heli be? Or maybe I should go nitro again (recommend a couple kits)? Either way I no longer have any RC gear so I will be buying it all over. I know how to hover and was getting into some forward flight. So I don't need a crazy 3D demon right now.

I also need one that is easy to set up as I have never set one up. I understand a good setup goes a long way with these birds. Of course, I guess if I need help I'll have you guys, right?

As far as a budget goes, I do not plan to purchase everything at once, but would like to get as much as I can for around $600-700USD more or less. If possible recommend some motors, transmitters and other things I will need.

Sorry for the long post. I'm sure it will be hard to read (it's 3AM here right now!). Feel free to ask questions if you need something clarified. Thanks for any help!

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05-07-2005 10:26 AM  13 years agoPost 2
sailmike

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Sounds like you at least have 'some' idea of how heli's are set up due to your experience with a Raptor 30. There is an electric conversion kit available for the Raptor 30/50 at T P P A C K S . C O M. Total cost will probably be more than the budget you mentioned though.

Another option is, if you want a total beginners heli, the Corona might fit your bill. It's a fixed pitch heli and very crash resistant. I've seen one colide with an airplane and the airplane was totalled, but the heli was back in the air in about 5 minutes.

Perhaps the Logo 10, which is a little bit smaller than a .30 size, but a very good and stable heli. It will cost quite a bit more than your budget though.

ALL heli's that I know of in the .30 size and larger will cost more than $1000, more likely $1500+.

Nowadays I think your question is rather broad, because there is an explosion in electric heli's going on right now. I've heard of at least 5 new heli's coming out later this year. I think you should just go with the one that appeals to you the most. Though, at the website I mentioned above, you could get the motor, batteries, and ESC in one place, saving you the trouble picking the right combination. There's way too many combinations of motor, battery, and ESC's out there. I wouldn't know which one to recommend.

Hope I helped some,
Mike

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05-07-2005 12:41 PM  13 years agoPost 3
flybarless

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Do you still have any of the parts left from your Raptor?
You might be able to save some costs by using your transmitter and working radio parts(be sure and get them tested). Flight packs are cheap compared to the cost of a complete radio set up, with the introduction of the "model memory" radios.
As was mentioned, there are several new electrics coming out in the next few months, if there is nothing that currently excites you, wait a few weeks and let the new stuff get tested.
If your heart is not dedicated to electric, the Raptor 30/50 is still a good choice as well as the Tiger 50.
I would also try to find someone local or a local club to give you a hand with set up. A flight simulator is a valuable tool as well.

Just remember -- if the world didn't suck, we would fall off.

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05-07-2005 01:56 PM  13 years agoPost 4
Lonesome_Banjo

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Thanks for the replys.

The "budget" was just going to be my initial purchase. I will be putting buying everything over a couple weeks. In the initial purchase I have about $600-$700 that I'm wlling to spend on a kit and then maybe a motor and what not. By the time I have that put together I'll be ready for batteries and such.

The Logo looks a lot like what I want. Are they fairly stable?

I do not have any other helicopter folks around. That why I was concerned about setup but I think I'll probably be able to figure it out. I've seen them being setup but never paid much attention. The part that looked more difficult was setting the blade pitch.

Just a quick question about the Raptor 50 or 60 (I don't remember which model they have). Would it still be recommend for someone of my skill level over say the 30? The reason I don't want another R30 is because I want to try a different helicopter. And if it's larger all the better. (the more stable righ? so a R60 might be option?) I might consider nitro again.

But like I said, the Logo 10 looks quite nice.

Thanks again!

(BTW, no, I have not a single RC part. I sold everything over years concentrating my efforts in getting my career up. But now that that's been done, I'm ready for RCs! )

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05-07-2005 02:27 PM  13 years agoPost 5
Lonesome_Banjo

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Also, about the Logos....

I see MANY different versions. Which do you think would be best? I see Logo 10, Logo 10 Carbon, Logo 14, Logo 20? Assuming money is no object.

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05-07-2005 05:11 PM  13 years agoPost 6
sailmike

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Best Logo? There isn't one. They are just different sizes. The Logo 10 is below .30 size, the L14 is .30 size, the L20 is .50 size, and the L24 is .60-.90 size. Only difference is the Logo 10 doesn't come with a driven tail for autos. They are all good.

Mike

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05-08-2005 08:01 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Tanner Hall

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actually, the only logo with driven tail is the L14. but as mike stated, they're all great helis. go to logoheli.com

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05-09-2005 04:45 AM  13 years agoPost 8
Helichomper

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take a look at the T-Rex best heli I have owned. very stable, in your price range. and flys as good as any 30 you won't go wrong. look at the forum on the T-Rex. real powerful too

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05-09-2005 02:10 PM  13 years agoPost 9
frustrated

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I'll throw in anotherone, little sweetie 8 or 10 from hhi qwwi. they are solid built heli's from tip to toe and are easy to get replacement parts for and incredible service after the sale

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05-09-2005 03:28 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Tanner Hall

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helichomper - the t-rex flies nowhere near as well as a .30-size heli. i've owned both. once you try a full-size heli, you will never want to go back.

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05-09-2005 05:27 PM  13 years agoPost 11
Helichomper

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your probably right. i have never flown a 30 but have watched them. and they look to fly like the rex. but probably because they are bigger i would assume they are more stable. you got me.!!!!!

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05-09-2005 05:31 PM  13 years agoPost 12
nivlek

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The best electric would be something like a Sulivan Dynatron .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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05-09-2005 08:55 PM  13 years agoPost 13
cwd10

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For the record. I did some size comparisons between the different Logo's and found that their size designation is a bit misleading. They are in fact a bit smaller than their Nitro counterparts. The main difference being rotor head size and blade length. For instance, my Logo 20 is EXACTLY the same length as my Century Raven 30. The rotor head is slightly larger and it obviously swings larger blades, but that's about it. In fact it's actually a bit narrower too. I would call the 20 a "30" sized ship, and the 14 a sub "30" sized ship and the 10 an anomoly between the Minis and "30"'s. Just an observation.

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05-09-2005 09:27 PM  13 years agoPost 14
E-gpeden

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Hi cwd10,

The designations for the LOGO heli's are based on nominal (in the case of the LOGO 10, say minimal, hehe) round cell counts. The LOGO 10 isn't really a 10 cell heli, but it can do it. The LOGO 20 is a 20 cell heli (24 cells makes it go), and the 14, a 14 cell heli, etc. This has nothing to do with glow heli sizing......

Cheers!
Glen

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05-10-2005 12:56 AM  13 years agoPost 15
cwd10

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I know that. I wasn't referring to the 10,14,20 designations. I was referring to their website and fact sheets stating that they are "30" or "50" sized machines, and the fact that everyone seems to refer to them that way.

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05-10-2005 02:31 AM  13 years agoPost 16
Tanner Hall

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imo the best way to define "30 size" or "50 size" is by blade size or maybe by weight. a heli's length, height and width can vary a lot depending on head design, etc.

my 3dmp (600 mm blades) is shorter vertically than my L10 (500mm blades).

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