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05-06-2005 08:08 PM  13 years agoPost 1
AirWolfRC

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Which way do you flip your idle-up switch to go into idle-up ?
Toward yourself or away from yourself ?
Which TX brand do you have?

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05-06-2005 08:13 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Leif

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With the 7+Ch Futaba Radios, the idle-up switch is programmed for:

Away from yourself = normal mode
Middle position = idleup 1
Toward yourself = idleup 2

Of course, you can program each of these modes for whatever flying conditions you want, so if you want to "redefine" them you do that by adjusting the flight program you want for each mode. However, the radio will still complain if you turn it on in either of the idleup swithc positions.

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05-06-2005 08:14 PM  13 years agoPost 3
Ace Dude

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On my TXs (I have both JR & Futaba) Normal is pushed back, away from you. You pull (towards you) for idle up1 and idle up 2. Idle up 2 is closest to you.

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05-06-2005 08:32 PM  13 years agoPost 4
darrens

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same as above

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05-06-2005 08:40 PM  13 years agoPost 5
slow

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Same as above, but with an addition..

All my switches (DR, Throttle-Hold, etc, etc) are set up so that if all switches are pushed away from me, everything is go for start. That way I can easily check over the switches and be certain that everything is the way it's supposed to before I crank the engine.

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05-06-2005 08:47 PM  13 years agoPost 6
frankg11

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I run same way as Slow.

All switches forward for starting and normal mode. That way quick feel and look at radio lets me know I am good to go.

Also radio beeps at me when I turn it on if all switches are not forward.

Just make sure that your collective is down before starting

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05-07-2005 10:11 PM  13 years agoPost 7
AirWolfRC

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It looks like JR and Futaba have the "start-up" mode with the switches in the "away" position and my Airtronics RD6000 & RD8000 are the opposite.

Logically, I like the idea of having the switches toward yourself being the start-up mode and when you want to "let go" (idle-up), then send the switches away. I'm also predisposed that way because I started with Airtronics.

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05-08-2005 12:16 AM  13 years agoPost 8
AirWolfRC

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Is it not just plain weird to pull a switch down to go idle-up ?

What was Futaba & JR thinking ?

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05-08-2005 12:30 AM  13 years agoPost 9
Leif

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Since the idle-up switch is on the top of the radio, and I hold my radio approximately horizontal, pulling the switch into idle-up IS "up".

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05-08-2005 02:33 AM  13 years agoPost 10
gt900uk

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I think its totally normal the way futaba and jr worked it. Feels very natural. But i guess whatever you are used to will be natural to you!!

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05-08-2005 02:36 AM  13 years agoPost 11
Ted Toth

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same here as Slow all away from me very east to see

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05-08-2005 02:48 AM  13 years agoPost 12
OzStriker

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Whatever you are comfortable with should be fine, surely there is no right or wrong answer.

On Boeing flightdecks moving a switch towards the front of the aircraft is "ON" whereas on Airbus flightdecks you move the switch towards the back of the aircraft for "ON."

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05-08-2005 02:42 PM  13 years agoPost 13
Jyrki

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The house light switches are ON when UP. At least here in europe. It is easy to remember from this rule: IT works when it's UP and rests when its DOWN.

Even my wife can always remember once i told the rule.

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05-08-2005 04:11 PM  13 years agoPost 14
AirWolfRC

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True, you can be trained (like a pet) to do most anything and consider it to be "normal" but some things go better when they're logical.

Like the idle-up switch, I like it better when;

switch up = away from me = idle-up
switch down = toward me = landing mode

That difference, coming from Airtronics, gave me an interesting time with a new 8103 and Fury Extreme a while back.

One of the first things I did on the JR8103 was to open it up and reverse the charging plug polarity to center positive. Now it's the same as the rest of the world . . . and my other transmitters.

I'm contemplating remounting all the switches in the 8103.

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05-08-2005 05:55 PM  13 years agoPost 15
gt900uk

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My JR 9xII switches work in the same orientation as my futaba, how is changing the JR switch make it the same as the world? I think comparing the rest of us to pets is a bit drastic could be argued that you are the one who has been contitioned :P LOL Anyway light switches in Europe in the UK down seems to be on hehehe.

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05-08-2005 06:07 PM  13 years agoPost 16
AirWolfRC

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Changing the POWER connection makes it the same as the rest of the world.

When you think about it, you train people just like you train pets. Give rewards (desirable responces) when certain things are done and those things will become engrained patterns. What's drastic about that ?

JR labels the switches on the TX as "1" being down and "0" being up. To me, that's backwards.

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05-08-2005 10:01 PM  13 years agoPost 17
gt900uk

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What i meant was the switches on my futaba tx and my JR tx worked in exactly the same way what makes them different? Surely does not matter how they are labled? Just curious. As for the pet thing was just pulling ur chain chill. If u read it it reads like we are all conditioned but u alone think logically was only teasing

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05-09-2005 02:12 AM  13 years agoPost 18
AirWolfRC

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The main point I was looking to verify is verified.

Futaba and JR have the same switch logic and Airtronics is opposite.

I still think that Futaba and JR are wrong but those manufacturers have the majority say-so (right or wrong) and that's the way they have led the world of RC.

Wolfgang

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05-09-2005 03:03 AM  13 years agoPost 19
RCfan

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Wolfgang,

There's nothing right or wrong about one manufacturer's design over another, just different representations of similar things. I've flown Futaba for a long while and feel very comfortable with their setup ... it feels logical to me, but that's just my opinion. What's more, newer radios allow assigning whatever flight curves to any button position, to suit your flying style.

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05-09-2005 03:05 AM  13 years agoPost 20
brian2kgt

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My Hitec Eclipse 7 is the same as the JR and Futuba, pull "up" towards me to go into idle up, so it looks like Airtronics is the abnormal one here.

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