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04-02-2005 02:13 AM  13 years agoPost 1
Stretched

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My cable system has just recently been upgraded to digital,(yes, I live in the sticks), which has given me the oppertunity to subscribe to a cable modem connection.

My question is:

I have two computers. My wife and I both have our own laptops, both running XP.

All I want to do is share the modem connection, I have no need to transfer between the two machines.

Tell me if I correct in my theory. All I will need is a wireless router and two wireless cards for the machines, and we should be able to share access to the cable modem with no issues, right?


If so, will I have to set up one of the machines as a primary/secondary? I am hoping not.

If my theory is wrong, then what do I need to set this up?


Thanks in advance,

Scott

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04-02-2005 02:20 AM  13 years agoPost 2
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Basically, yes, that will work. The wireless router probably will need some configuration done to it to get it to share the connection. You'll need to get a wireless router that supports "NAT" or "Broadband sharing" functionality though.

The added benefit is that you will be able to share files and printers between your two PCs as well. That just comes "with the package".

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04-02-2005 02:42 AM  13 years agoPost 3
Topher

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You can basically just go out and buy two wireless cards and a wireless router, switch, or hub and just basicaly plug everything in and your good to go. Most wireless hardware is pretty much just plug and play. But you might have to install some software on your computer for your wireless cards. You may want to configure some things too but that is all up to you.

Also just make sure you get a half way desent router. Routers use radio waves to transfer information the same way our RC radios do. So as you can imagine that signal can also become subject to interfearance i.e. singals going through walls and wiring in your house and such. So I would suggest getting a half way desent card and router, if you dont know what to get then go here: http://www.pcmech.com if you join the forum I am under the name Tophinater.

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04-02-2005 05:06 PM  13 years agoPost 4
Kraken

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Yup...all that's needed is a wireless router and two wireless cards (if they're not already in your laptops).

And remember, once you get it running for both your computers...and everything is happy - GO BACK INTO YOUR ROUTER AND TURN ON YOUR SECURITY!

If you use WEP, choose the highest bit encryption, then add that security key into both your computers to let them talk to the router again, and finally - turn off the SSID broadcast so your network is not only encrypted - it's invisible.

I have a Netgear wireless router, but I "fixed" my neighbbor's Linksys too. I prefer the Netgear, but it's really just an opinion.

Once you get going, feel free to ask questions.

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04-02-2005 05:09 PM  13 years agoPost 5
Kraken

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Oh..one more thing.

The printer sharing is a bit of an issue.

If you have the money, make sure that the router has a "print server" inside it. They cost a bit more, but if you both plan on using the same printer wirelessly...it's worth the extra money to save you from the headaches of "faking" it (it'll work, but intermittenly fails).

This way, you plug the printer directly into the router (as long as your printer can handle it - is it USB?).

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04-02-2005 05:28 PM  13 years agoPost 6
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If you have the money, make sure that the router has a "print server" inside it. They cost a bit more, but if you both plan on using the same printer wirelessly...it's worth the extra money to save you from the headaches of "faking" it (it'll work, but intermittenly fails).
Just Install the File and Printer sharing on network option, It will let you share printer that plug into either of the computer, there is no need to buy more expensive router, regular linksys will work just fine.

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04-02-2005 05:34 PM  13 years agoPost 7
raptorheli2

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if you only run laptops then you will need to get cards that fit in your laptops. this is normally pcmcia wifi cards if you don't have wifi built in. there is usb versions available too. go with 54G as this is 10x faster (so the claim) than the old B style. i have US Robotics 54G turbo which is 125mb upto. altough you never see that but thats another story.

as has been said if you can i would go with the print server in the router if you can. but be sure you get the right one. if you have a usb printer you need a usb printer port on your router etc. you can do this via the network but this means the printer needs to be plugged in all the time to one of the computers and with laptops this isn't always possible. for the little extra i would get that if you print a lot.

i wouldn't use a hub for this application as you need a gateway to get out and you don't want to make one of your machines a server to let the network get out. foget about a switch. stick with the router. this is what it's for.

if you go wifi set WEP up, mac address filtering and turn broadcast or SSID off (depends what router it is what it's called, 90% are SSID).

you can't go wrong with netgear, belkin or US Robotics. i put one in a customers house and from plugging everything in, to on the internet, i managed 3 minutes total. mind you i have installed one or three in my time.

oh, btw if you go with mac filtering you need to know your machines mac address. to get this goto start, run and type cmd. now your in command prompt. now type ipconfig/all. your looking for physical address. it will look something like. 00-c0-49 etc. 12 numbers/letters long. this is assuming it's a windows XP machine.

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04-02-2005 05:57 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Kraken

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Just Install the File and Printer sharing on network option, It will let you share printer that plug into either of the computer, there is no need to buy more expensive router, regular linksys will work just fine.
But for security purposes, I don't like to have the file-sharing option enabled. If Micro$oft would just split up the two options - a file sharing or a printer sharing...not both.

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04-02-2005 06:23 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Naomi

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Very good point.. Hopefully in the future the microsoft would split that file and printer sharing up for security purpose.

Naomi

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04-03-2005 04:33 AM  13 years agoPost 10
Stretched

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Wow,

Thanks for all the replies!!

I wasn't worried about sharing between the two computers, but I didn't consider, or even know, that I could share the printer via the router, that would be a plus.

I was told to get a linksys g. router and cards to do this.

So I wouldn't only have the ability to share the modem and printer, but I would also still be able to share between teh two laptops also right? Did I read that right?

I just didn't want to have to have one of the laptops as a server, or have one running just so the other could have access.


Thanks again for the info.


Scott

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04-03-2005 09:58 AM  13 years agoPost 11
raptorheli2

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get a router as you say.

when you setup your computers you will need to go into setup the home network options.

to get this to work properly you should ideally put both of your laptops onto the same "workgroup". if both laptops have the same version of XP then your good to go in terms of the workgroup name.

nextg step is goto my computer, on left hand panel there will be setup home office or small home network. follow that wizard.

once you have done that you will be given the option to make up a network disk on a floppy disk. make one and put it in the other laptop and run it. thats this side finished.

now all you need to do is goto the folder/file you wish to share, right click on it, properties, sharing then click share this folder and give it a name. you can let others change your files if you want.

thats you sharing files on both machines. when you have this setup the printer one is a doddle. hope this doesn't sound difficult. it really is easy stuff.

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04-03-2005 03:06 PM  13 years agoPost 12
wolfdad

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Geeez,
And I thought southern Maryland was the last place on the planet to get broadband access.

I am assuming that, in all the discussions you already have a cable modem.

Personally, I am using the Linksys equipment and have been for about two years now with nary a hiccup. Output of the cable modem goes into the appropriate port on the back of my BEFW1154 and I have the choice of either "hard-wiring" up to 4 computers or going wireless with up to, I think, 56 other computers (most desktops and laptops now have an ethernet card integral to the motherboard or you will have to purchase a wireless card if you want to go that direction for each computer on the wireless system). I also purchased a Linksys print server (EFSP42) and, following the Linksys instructions was "off to the races" with my own home LAN. You will have to choose a work group name (no big deal) and decide on how much sharing you want to do, however the whole process, thanks to Linksys is pretty much a "no brainer." You can download the instructions for any component you are considering purchasing at http://www.linksys.com so you can take a look at what is involved. I would, as others have, recommend the highest level of security be activated and used. Looking at the various stores that carry Linksys products...Wally World, Radio Shack, etc., I have noticed that the prices have dropped considerably.

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04-03-2005 06:29 PM  13 years agoPost 13
Kraken

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The only problem I had with Linksys was when I was setting up one of my neighbor's network.

I got to where the computer could see the router, and fly on through it to the 'net - until I tuned on WEP (128-bit). Once turned on, I could still see the router, but it would pass no traffic. I fought and fought...and finally - I jump on with their tech support.

After going around and around with them, you know what their solution was? Use 64-bit encryption. That's all that would work. That bothered me.

Past that, Linksys makes a great router - although their cable modems blow (I went through two of 'em in about a year).

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04-04-2005 03:44 AM  13 years agoPost 14
Stretched

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Wolfdad,

I don't have the modem yet. I get a "free" Motorola cable modem when I sign up.


Kraken, was the problem with the encryption just an isolated problem, or is it just standard that you can't run 128-bit?

I agree with you, that sucks.

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04-05-2005 09:59 PM  13 years agoPost 15
Kraken

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I'm hoping it's an isolated problem.

But their tech support was a bit quick to have me drop it down to 64-bit.

It's a new router...I'll get my neighbor to give me his model number just in case.

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04-05-2005 10:12 PM  13 years agoPost 16
dasd

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For what it's worth, I'm running 128 bit WEP on a Linksys router with two laptops and it's fine. I used a passphrase to generate the WEP code. This setup worked on cable and is still working on DSL. BTW, use as much security as possible. I have MAC filtering turned on, also. Do everything one step at a time.

1. change the administrator password.
2. Enable WEP.
3. Enable MAC filtering.
4. Test between each step.

Sounds paranoid, but you never know

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