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03-31-2005 06:54 PM  13 years agoPost 1
davehour

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Hi:

We all talk and want the fastest systems for our simulating applications. But, almost all use some kind of antivirus/firewall software protection.

I was reading in a Dell Forum about system performance issues and one of the things mentioned was the antivirus/firewall programs do load the system. According to one of the posters, Norton Internet Security load the system much, and he stated he switched to PC-cillin Internet Security 2005 which is better (according to him) and doesn’t load the system that bad.

Well, it’s time to hear your opinion about this, and what are the best options to keep protection without consuming the pricy resources we got.

Thank you very much.

David

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03-31-2005 07:13 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Drunk Monk

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I use the windows firewall and Kaspersky anti virus. Doesn't seem to slow my system down. Can't say I've ever been hacked.


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03-31-2005 07:24 PM  13 years agoPost 3
RCfan

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Firewall software should have very little impact on system performance unless you're in a high-traffic area. Unless your computer is directly connected to the Internet, e.g. you don't use a router-type device between you're Internet connection and computer, then most home users will see negligible performance issues due to firewall software.

AV software on the other hand can cause tons of issues if incorrectly setup. Most software allows you to configure it to screen during idle periods of off-hours (times when you're not using the computer) ... DO THIS! AV software also may cause problems if you have a lot of files on your system across many drives. The more you have, the more work AV software has to go through and hence more system utilization, specially if your drives are heavily fragmented.

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03-31-2005 07:30 PM  13 years agoPost 4
ptarp

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AV software also may cause problems if you have a lot of files on your system across many drives.
I don't see why this would effect anything. AV software intercepts file-access requests and scans them before handing them over to the OS. Hence, the performance hit does not depend on how many files reside on your hard drive, but how many accesses you make to them.

Now, when AV software does its weekly scans (or however often it is setup), the more files you have, the longer it will take.


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03-31-2005 07:40 PM  13 years agoPost 5
RCfan

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Most AV software periodically scans files already on your system, not restricted to just new stuff or file access. If you have AV software that is doing just that, I strongly recommend you consider looking for something better! It is this periodic scan that tends to kill performance on most computers due to improper configuration.

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03-31-2005 09:19 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Tim B

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Instead of a software firewall I use a cable router (aka hardware firewall), they usually work better than software and don't use up your resources. As for anti-virus i use Avg and set it to scan during the night while I'm sleeping so it doesn't interupt my daily computing. And I use Spybot S&D periodically to clean out spyware and such. My system stays pretty clean with these methods.

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03-31-2005 11:53 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Windspiel

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I had thought about the same issues I used the Microsoft firewall and found it week
So i did some searching i found Macfee firewall and anti virus to be the best without overloading the hard drive with useless junk

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04-01-2005 01:26 AM  13 years agoPost 8
bit64

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MacAfee completely hosed my system, and I had to uninstall it. I would recommend Microsoft's solution. McAfee adds a bunch of useless junk, like the ability to bring up a map and see where in the world some malitious packet is coming from. Like you are going to fly there and beat the guy up. Microsoft's solution is just as powerful (I mean a firewall is a fairly simple application) as any of the others. If you have a hardware router, than chances are you are protected well enough anyway.

If you are trying to squeeze extra performance out of your machine, make sure you disable system restore . That carries a larger penalty than any firewall or AV. Also make sure that your virtual memory is not too high and not too low.

One last edit...most of the time poor performance can be blamed on some service running needlessly in the background. Make sure any services are running actually need to be running. Stuff like Quicktime, your printer driver, and spyware can really slow you down.

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04-01-2005 09:45 AM  13 years agoPost 9
Drunk Monk

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I used the Microsoft firewall and found it week
Why?


Stephen

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04-01-2005 11:31 AM  13 years agoPost 10
Windspiel

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I wondered my results with the SP2 firewall but found this website to test it

bit64 if you don't have have your system setup proper your results can happen my guess your running a 64bit system still in beta OS


http://www.hackerwatch.org/probe/?l...3da497871d6d1b8

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04-01-2005 11:34 AM  13 years agoPost 11
PaulH-MA

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All firewalls perform the same task: stop inbound packets. The "value added" in the various products is in the utilities that the ship with. As a previous poster mentioned, I have no desire to fly around the world and beat up some 10-year old kid in Russia for trying to DDOS my computer.

My software recomendations would be:

1. Make sure that your computer is fully up-to-date. If you're running Windows XP, download service pack 2 immediately.

2. Enable the firewall and automatic updates. This will elminate 99% of your problems.

3. Use AVG Antivirus from http://grisoft.com/. The free edition works great. If you install the "Resident Shield" part of the application, every executable you use will be scanned as it is loaded into memory. I turn this off when I play games so that it's not trying to scan things in the background as I play.

4. Use a combination of SpyBot Search & Destroy (http://spybot.info/) and AdAware SE (http://www.lavasoftusa.com)

All of this is completely free and totally legal for personal use.

--Paul

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04-01-2005 02:08 PM  13 years agoPost 12
DS 8717

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I created a seperate partition for my sim without all the unnecessary programs running in the background. You can also disable your AV while your using your sim,but you still other process's running in the back ground. I use AVG AV on the partition that i use for the internet.

YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE..IF YOU LIVE IT RIGHT THATS ALL YOU NEED

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04-01-2005 03:46 PM  13 years agoPost 13
BDIS

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If you are that worried about performance Why not just setup a dual boot machine. Load one OS for just the SIM with networking disabled. Load only what you need to run the base OS, Disable all services you don't need, and install only the SIM. Use the other OS for everything else? That's just one possibility

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04-01-2005 07:21 PM  13 years agoPost 14
bit64

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"bit64 if you don't have have your system setup proper your results can happen my guess your running a 64bit system still in beta OS"


Windspiel, I'm sorry I don't understand your post. I am not having any performance issues, I was just offering tips to those that do. I do have a 64bit system, but I'm running WinXP for 64 (retail). However, I do my gaming on my intel 32bit laptop anyway.

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04-01-2005 09:45 PM  13 years agoPost 15
PaulH-MA

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WinXP x64 RC2 was just released. There is no retail version.

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04-01-2005 09:49 PM  13 years agoPost 16
bit64

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You're right, I shouldn't have said "retail" version. I am running a much newer build than RC2 though.

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04-01-2005 11:06 PM  13 years agoPost 17
DS 8717

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Will G3 run on your 64 bit system,i heard that some programs will work even though they are 32 bit.

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04-01-2005 11:08 PM  13 years agoPost 18
bit64

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Well I don't have G3, but all 32bit apps should still run on an x64. It uses a 32->64 bit thunking layer to translate data between the app and the kernel.

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04-01-2005 11:29 PM  13 years agoPost 19
BDIS

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Will G3 run on your 64 bit system,i heard that some programs will work even though they are 32 bit.
As long as you are running a 64bit proc that still supports 32 bit instructions

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04-02-2005 12:54 PM  13 years agoPost 20
DS 8717

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What i mean is will it run on The beta XP 64 bit operating sytem,i know it will work with the AMD 64 bit processor and 32 bit XP,i have that and i also have the 64 XP operating system in dual boot. I heard that some games will work on the 64 bit XP beta OS, and was woundering if any one tried G3 on the 64 OS.

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